SEP3: Please make the labeling of the tools (right panel collapsed) readable

The labeling of the tools in the right panel - almost unreadable:
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Compared to the labeling of the presets in the left panel:
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They seem very readable to me.


@Klick I am on a Mac and it looks like the release they made Friday July 30th corrects the problem. It appears the two panels are now of equal brightness.


@mwsilvers @ButchR
Not the “titles” when the tools are collapsed:

BTW: I’m on a Mac too.

@Klick I see what you mean. I was not focused on the collapsed titles. I have now voted.


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in Win 10, 125% / Eizo CG2730, 2560x1440
[ pixelruler to compare width → – Win ]

SilverEfexPro 3 (Nik / PlugIn_PL 4.3.1
Screen Shot 08-10-21 at 02.19 PM
LHS 330 px

RHS 330 px / slider scale 140 px
= same dimensions in Viveza 3 (Nik / PlugIn_PL 4.3.1

PhotoLab 4.3.1

RHS 410 px / slider scale 150 px
= the RHS is wider and the lettering better to read as SEP3 and Viv3
About Nik 4 - SilverEfex 3 & Viveza 3

FilmPack 5.5.27 (Elite)
Screen Shot 07-31-21 at 08.01 PM
RHS 470 px / slider scale 180 px
= bigger lettering in FP5

SilverEfexPro 2 / Nik 3.3 / PlugIn_PL 4.3.1
Screen Shot 08-02-21 at 02.05 PM
RHS 320 px / slider scale 260 px
= same dimensions in SilverEfexPro2 (Nik 3.3) / PlugIn_AP 1.9.2 / _PS

edited / see further down post #10

@Wolfgang , you are referring to the width of the palette and thus the spacing of the letters, right?
For me, it’s mainly the brightness and contrast of the font.

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you are absolutely right about brightness and contrast – especially with fonts so small.
Plus, in a wider palette there is more space to structure and organize for quick overview.
– First hand, it’s about usability, not about a whatever slick design.

DxO has already proven e.g. in PL 4, how to do better – wider palette, bigger font, better contrast !


I agree this is one of several things that need changes

As I have been watching several published webinars about SilverEfex Pro 3,

I thought, there is a size difference on the RHS of SEP3 between the Mac versions and Windows.

So, I took screenshots from Dan’s transmitted video, which appears at roughly the same size
as those from PhotoJoseph, and included → to compare width.

PhotoLab 4.3.1

= 445 px → Dan Hughes (430 px → PhotoJoseph)
= 410 px → Windows

SilverEfex Pro 3

= 410 px → Dan Hughes (~ 402 px → PhotoJoseph)
= 330 px → Windows

In comparison to PL 4.3.1, the difference for SEP3 between the transmitted Mac version and Windows is striking … so, what’s wrong?

Apart from obvious requirements to transmit the webinar,
– the Mac version’s RHS panel/menu in SEP3 seems to be (much) wider than in Windows.

Of course, it’s not only the width, but the lacking contrast with labeling so small !

I have really no idea if you can compare screenshots of a YouTube video with your monitor display. Besides, as far as I know, YouTube edits the videos while uploading them.

Hi Manfred & all,

going to Webinars - Nik Collection dy DxO, you can see that webinar by Dan Hughes
Discover Your Unique Style with Nik Silver Efex for Black & White Portraits - Nik Collection by DxO

PL 4.3.1 via DxO

SEP3 via DxO

The pixelruler ( – Win ) shows, the screenshots taken from DxO site are almost exactly the same width as those from the YouTube video.
– If you / someone is interested in the real size … (calibrated pixelruler for my screen).
– And, I chose this webinar because PhotoJoseph uses his camera in between (his ‘main frame’ jumps forth and back), while Dan Hughes doesn’t.

So yes from my impression, the Mac version’s RHS panel/menu of SEP3 seems to be (much) wider than in Windows.
– Maybe someone from DxO will let us know and explain, why the Windows version is smaller than the Mac version – or not.

hoping for improvements

Hi @Wolfgang , I understand what you are saying. I’m just not sure if distances that are taken from a YouTube video actually correspond to reality. Because YouTube “optimizes” videos when uploading them. Maybe they are also minimally distorted by this.
Anyway, the fact is that these labels are hard to read. Therefore:

Me too!