Anybody know how fast DeepPRIME XD2s processes RAW files on the new Intel Core Ultra 9 185H and the integrated Intel Arc Graphics ?
This would be in comparison to the NVIDIA® GeForce RTX™ 4050 Laptop GPU.
Do you guys think that the Nvidia 4050 would be significantly faster?
Any comment / information much appreciated.
If you have such a machine then why not download the free trial and try it for yourself?
Having said that, it’s not the CPU that limits the processing time for any of the DeepPRIME noise reduction options, it’s the capabilities of the GPU.
I don’t have enough knowledge of the Intel Arc Graphics to offer proper advice but I’ve a feeling from stuff I’ve read on this forum it’s not that great for the DeepPRIME options in PL. Also, a simple Google search to get a comparison of Intel Arc vs Nvidia RTX 4050 suggests the 4050 is superior. In other words, even if the new Core Ultra 9 knocks spots off the CPU in the laptop, because the laptop has a better GPU then I’d expect the laptop would be a better choice for DeepPRIME exports.
As I said, I have no experience Intel ARC Graphics so I’m happy to be proven wrong on my thoughts above.
Thank you very much for the advice.
A) Unfortunately I don’t have the machine so I couldn’t test it
B) Perhaps I’m too simple but I can’t seem to find specifically the
Intel Core Ultra 9 185H with integrated Intel Arc Graphics vs Nvidia 4050.
Would be great if you’d point me in the right direction and maybe post the link to the search you did!
I also feel that dedicated GPU will almost always be better than integrated, but still interested if the newer Intel Arc Graphics have finally caught up.
Thank you very much indeed.
I only searched for ‘Intel Arc Graphics vs Nvidia RTX 4050’, I didn’t include any reference to the Core Ultra 9. I did that because, as I said, it’s not the CPU that limits the export speed of any of the DeepPRIME noise reduction algorithms, it’s the GPU.
Thank you!
Ok, I see.
You seem like a clearly more tech-savvy guy than I am. I am almost tech illiterate when it comes to computer stuff.
I managed to find this comparison which states that the 4050 is clearly superior.
What say you?
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4050 Laptop GPU vs Intel Arc 8-Core iGPU (notebookcheck.net)
I can’t say more than I’ve already said because, as I said 
, I’ve no experience of the Intel Arc Graphics.
Hopefully someone else will chip in to this topic now…
Ok, cheers mate.
Any comment on the link I posted would be great though!
If you want to work with PL8 etc., you’d better follow DxO’s recommendations - it’s that simple.
Thank you, yes I intend to follow their recommendations. According to the recommendations it seems they only include Nvidia GPUs. That is perfectly fine by me. The Intel seems to be a minimun requirement however.
I just wanted to ask if anybody know how fast DeepPRIME XD2s processes RAW files on the new Intel Core Ultra 9 185H and the integrated Intel Arc Graphics ?
I hope it is okay with you if I ask that question.
Yes, of course.
Since you also admitted to being not very tech savy I’ll try to clarify further…
While PL is just editing RAW files it predominately uses the computers CPU, which (for Windows machines) will be either made by Intel or by AMD. The more powerful the better, so one of Intel’s shiny new Core Ultra 9 chips will out preform the ancient Intel Core i5 chip in my lowly machine. However, even my low spec CPU copes with the 30 megapixel RAW files from my Canon 90D.
It is when you have finalised your edits in PL and then wish to export your masterpiece as a TIFF / JPEG / whatever that PL requires lots of processing power. If your device only has what is known as ‘on-board’ graphics then exporting a file that uses any of the DeepPRIME denoising algorithms will take a long time, i.e. (many) minutes, not seconds. In my case that means it takes at least five mins to export one of my RAW files. As far as I know, Intel Arc Graphics are a type of on-board graphics and, while a considerable improvement on Intel’s previous on-board graphics, they are not in the same league as the dedicated graphics cards made by Nvidia or AMD. I have no knowledge of how long it would take Intel Arc Graphics to export a large RAW file.
If though your device has a dedicated graphics card then PL will use the specialised graphics processor on that card, the GPU, during the export. This has a dramatic effect on how long it takes PL to export a RAW file. When I added such a card to my old machine the export times went from the five mins already mentioned down to less than 30 seconds using DeepPRIME XD and abut 55 seconds for DeepPRIME XD2.
So far I’ve only mentioned Nvidia graphics cards because you specifically mentioned the RTX 4050 but AMD Ryzen graphics cards will do just as good a job. DxO give their min specs for PL8 here:
There is no mention of Intel Arc Graphics in those specs. As already stated by @Wolfgang:
In my pdf, there is stated
“Für DeepPRIME, DeepPRIME XD und DeepPRIME XD2s:
o Nvidia RTX™ mit 4GB VRAM und den neuesten Treibern
o Nvidia GTX™ mit 8 GB VRAM und den neuesten Treibern
o AMD Radeon RX6000-Serie mit 4GB VRAM und den neuesten Treibern
o Intel ARC mit 8 GB VRAM und den neuesten Treibern”
I use the Ultra 5 125 H processor and after the last version of PL6 (6.19) it all works fine, because they have fixed a bug for me.
In the log-file (…\DxO PhotoLab 6 logs\DxO.PhotoLab.txt)
2024-10-05 20:36:24.528 | DxO.PhotoLab - 13268 - 6 | PhotoLab - Info | GPU count: 1
2024-10-05 20:36:24.528 | DxO.PhotoLab - 13268 - 6 | PhotoLab - Info | GPU model: Intel(R) Arc™ Graphics
2024-10-05 20:36:24.528 | DxO.PhotoLab - 13268 - 6 | PhotoLab - Info | GPU memory: 2047 MB
2024-10-05 20:36:24.528 | DxO.PhotoLab - 13268 - 6 | PhotoLab - Info | GPU driver version: 32.0.101.6079 (23.09.2024)
the problem for me is: the 2047 MB aren’t the 8 GB, but if I look in the windows-task-manager, there is stated, that max 9 GB memory would be shared.
So I have to try the PL8 version before buying.
Thank you!
That clarifies a lot. So it is really the exporting from the edited RAW to Jpegs (or some other format) that will use most of the time. Wasn’t aware of that.
I guess exporting using an integrated GPU will take sigificantly longer time accorind to your example.
How long does it take for you to export a RAW file using the Ultra 5 125 H processor?
a CR3 File from my EOS R (6720*4480 = 30.1 MPixel): around 1 Minute.
Thank you for the information. I am afraid for my usage scenario 1 minute is a bit too longish…
It seems that a dedicated GPU is the way to go then in my case. Need to find a small mobile laptop with a dedicated Nvidia GPU adapter.
Why do you say that? Can you not do the export as a batch job?
I just did a test export of a 24Mpx CR2 file and, with DeepPRIME, it took only 12 secs and with DeepPRIME XD, it took 43secs.
Then I took one of my Nikon D850 files at 46Mpx and that exported to JPEG with DeepPRIME XD2s in only 45 secs.
Here is my computer spec…
I just replied to one user who said that in his case one RAW file takes 1 minute to export. That is the time it takes for him to export. I will find a slightly faster solution.
Thank you all for your help!
Decided on a 13 inch mobile PC/tablet form factor laptop with a Nvidia Geforce 4050 laptop GPU. Also the device have the OEM Nvidia Studio Drivers preinstalled in the factory. The device is meant for content creation and gaming.
The RAW files from the Nikon D850 takes these times to export:
DeepPrime 6 seconds one RAW file
DeepPrime XD2S 13 seconds one RAW file
Now I will purchase the Photolab 8 Elite version.
The RAW files at ISO-28000 looks stunning after exporting them into JPG.
It seems DXO Photolab is clearly ahead in terms of professional noise reduction software!
There are any number of enthusiast web sites wherein you can compare the relative power and capabilities of GPU hardware. Techpowerup, the home of the well-regarded gpu-z test and benchmark utility, is one such place.
