PhotoLab 6 introduced the Wide Gamut colour space, which is much larger than AdobeRGB, which was the previous working space.
By using AdobeRGB in your camera, you are going to benefit from the wider gamut with smoother colour and tonal graduations.
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Done, for my Nikons.
Need to change my Fuji and Leica.
Is this another advantage of DxO PhotoLab compared to Adobe Lightroom?
Hmm, two questions, first, as I am not very comfortable with color management, I can easily set the camera back to sRGB, and DxO will still find the AdobeRGB data? You say the “in camera jpg setting”, but I only shoot RAW. Why does/would it matter which way I leave the camera set? I think I’ll change the camera setting back to what it used to be, sRGB, if @Joanna agrees that it doesn’t make any difference for me.
I started to understand this a few years ago, but haven’t given it a thought since then.
What I need the most is a switch that tells my sun to go back to full power when I’m taking a photo. Today was a lousy day to take photos.
It does make a difference. If you don’t use AdobeRGB in camera, then PL won’t have as much colour information to work with.
The only time you should consider sRGB is when you are finally outputting to jpegs for emails or web pages, or sending to some print labs.
You can always reduce the colour space but, if you were to use sRGB in camera, you would have lost the option to output to a printer with the same quality.
It doesn’t cost you anything but it does leave more options open and, even exporting to sRGB after processing, you will still get better results.
All my cameras will get changed to AdobeRGB at the next opportunity to do so.
Should I post this where someone from DxO might get to read it, or can one of you do so? If doing this leads to better images from PhotoLab, they can add this not to one of their weekly or monthly emails I keep getting. I can email them Monday, unless one of you care to do so.
Curious, are there any other settings for our cameras that allow PhotoLab to do a better job?
If you are generating in-camera jpeg files, then selection of sRGB vs aRGB can make a difference. I didn’t think jpegs were on the table today.
My earlier post regarding raw files stands on its own, but I will elaborate a bit because you ask.
When you select sRGB or aRGB in-camera, at export the camera will embed various metadata tags in the exported file to indicate your selection. These metadata tags can (not must) be used by displays and applications as an indication of what ICC color space profile should be used in interpreting the raw file RGB values. These camera raw file RGB values are not changed in any way by your in-camera sRGB or aRGB settings. Further, camera raw files have no intrinsic color space, hence there is no color space to change in camera.
DxO PL will process raw files using its new DxO Wide Gamut working color space or the older Adobe RGB working color space. Those are your only choices. At export, you can choose from a wide variety of color space tags and actual ICC color profiles depending on your use case. You can also import ICC color profiles from other sources.
@mikemyers sounds like an invitation to me
Are you sure this applies when
No, I always try to shoot in ‘raw’. I only shoot ‘jpg’ images in my Fuji X100f, using the “film simulations”.
I don’t export anything from my cameras. I move the memory card to my computer, and copy the raw files to an appropriate folder.
As to the camera, from what I learned from @Joanna, I have changed my D780 and D3 from sRGB to AdobeRGB. Apparently this will make it easier for PhotoLab to find the color information.
I don’t know what happens within PhotoLab, but I do know when the editing is complete, I get a ‘jpg’ image that I can use as I wish.
I don’t understand what you are saying here:
That’s not possible, as I don’t export anything - I remove the memory card from my camera to my computer. I assume those data files with tags and so on were part of the image file that got saved on my memory card.
You also wrote:
The one thing I am pretty sure of, is that all of this data is embedded in the image file created in my camera. If I’m wrong, please elaborate. From what @Joanna wrote, if I had selected AdobeRGB, the camera must have written that information differently, than had I selected sRGB.
If you can point me to an article that describes this, or explain it yourself, I’m very curious how the camera does this. Thanks!!!
@mikemyers it appears @Joanna is a notable photographer 
By the way, I don’t know HOW all this magic works, only that it does work I’m not sure I need to understand, even if I was capable of doing so, which is doubtful.
I will be quite content when I understand how my camera records all this stuff, but it’s not essential. At some point I may even understand all the choices the photographer makes to his device, to allow PhotoLab to create the most beautiful photograph. I am learning, but I have doubts that I will ever understand ALL the settings on any of my cameras. I trust @Joanna that I don’t need to, and I can ignore a lot of them - but I really would like to eventually understand every one of them.
I’m hoping that the more I understand, the better I will be at creating the best file to feed to PhotoLab - and then it’s a matter of how well I understand the PhotoLab tools. So many people in this forum have helped me, and while there is a lot that is yet to be learned, I’m happy with what I think I now understand. Sort of…
Confused - this leads to an article by Spencer Cox.
What am I missing?
I will read it tomorrow morning USA time, Florida.
Yes, this is correct.
It seems some people don’t read.
For raw, and thus PL, it doesn’t matter which color space you chooise in the camera. Unless you only shoot in jpg or tiff.
The raw file doesn’t contain an output color space yet.
George
not quite - unless for some reason the embedded jpg is relevant
Since I am far from an expert at PhotoLab, and having read from @Joanna where PhotoLab works best with AdobeRGB, and since so many people are saying it makes no difference, and since I need to select sRGB or AdobeRGB, for shooting in RAW, there is no downside to just leaving the camera set at AdobeRGB.
I did read the article, but there may be something about how PhotoLab might work better with AdobeRGB, which is different from what the Photography Life article author is aware of, if @Joanna is right, I’ve made the right choice, and as for the article in Photography Life, it won’t make any difference.
I suppose one of us can test both settings, and compare them after PhotoLab has processed each of them, and compared the results.
@mikemyers you really need to review what sources you find reliable. No wonder you are confused.
You can approach photography religiously, but when it comes to technology, it’s time to throw your faith out the window.
Sorry Mike, you talk as a chicken without a head. Dutch expression.
PL is a raw converter. It converts the raw data to a RGB raster image and it converts its input gamut/color space to a working color space. And that working color space is converted to your output color space, whatever you choose.
It’s getting time you learn the very basics of a converter. You’re here around for several years already.
George
Maybe so, but until I think something through completely, I’m not yet sure.
I am anxious to read @Joanna’s response to the article I will link to below.
I mostly trust Ken Rockwell, most of the time, and here is his article:
I think I’ve changed my mind back to what I used to believe:
What is most important to me, is the end result, what viewers see on their screen, from email, messages, forums, and viewing images. @Joanna wants to make large prints. I want to make good looking images that will be viewed online.
Ken Rockwell is really not someone you should refer to if you wish to shoot raw.