Statement:
A picture of a color checker card is taken in camera as Jpeg and RAW at the same time with a certain in camera color profile applied to the jpeg(vivid, portrait, landscape, custom, b&w…) .
Feature Request:
Now I want to match the RAWs colors to the Jpeg as a baseline for editing by marking the color checker card area in both Raw and Jpeg.
Option:
(Maybe it could also be done with the Thumbnail included in the Raw, but I don’t know if that holds enough information.)
Pulling it up. Is there a way to use a color checker card to match raw files from a shoot to the jpegs from the same series, if the jpegs have in camera color profiles applied?
If you are using a colour checker then why do you want to match to the JPG which will most likely NOT match the colour checker? This does not make sense to me!
Thanks for letting me know that it does not make sense to you. Do you have a technical solution anyway? Maybe I did not make the statement clear enough?
Imagine a camera has really great in camera color profiles. But the optical corrections and noise reduction of PL are superior. Now I want to transfer color information from Jpeg to the Raw and do the optical corrections and noise reduction in DxO. I just thought a reference card could help in this use case. It would be even greater if DxO could extract that information from a reference picture or from the thumbnail itself.
According to DxO, the camera profiles in PhotoLab are supposed to already match in-camera color renderings. But of course they don’t completely match - at least, not for you and not for me (I shoot with Olympus and Panasonic gear). DxO’s renderings for my cameras are more realistic, but not a match for out-of-camera JPEGs. HSL adjustments get me closer, but an exact match is difficult to keep consistent even with a custom preset. It’s been a while since I’ve tried - for a baseline, I’ve actually come to prefer DxO’s presets in recent years as they’ve grown.
I use Olympus cameras and I have created a custom colour setting for the OOC jpegs. I use this setting for all my colour OOC photos and video. (I shoot raw + jpeg)
For the raw files, in PL, I created a custom preset that replicates this custom setting in the camera. So, when I open a raw file, it looks the same as the OOC jpeg. I can then make any adjustments from that starting point.
I don’t think that DXO will entertain the notion of reading the OOC jpeg settings just to create a default. So, you will have to do it yourself.
How did you recreate the settings in PL? Do you have a reproducable process which fits to 100 % of the input files? I tried it that way, but even if it might work for similar shooting conditions, the same settings fail if the condtions vary like from indoors to outdoors or day and night.
You mean the in-camera editing. And you’re looking for edit settings in PL that will give the same result when converting the RAW file?
Has been asked many times but until now only the software/converter from the camera manufacturer will be able to archive that.
George
Yes. Often, I am very happy with the Jpegs colors, but want to get rid of the noise and use the lens corrections. Recreating the overall look of the image feels like an additional work. Any stable process or automation to overcome this would be very appreciated.
For me and my Canon 90D, the best starting point is to use PL’s ‘neutral colors’ rendering. The colours are not the same as Canon’s ‘standard’ picture style but they not too far out and they are waaaaaaaaaay closer than DxO’s 90D profile, which, as @Egregius has already said, is supposed to match the in-camera JPEG.
DxO’s ‘Standard’ and ‘Natural’ renderings are, in my far from humble opinion, rubbish.
Ok. That’s also what I do when I shoot neutral more day to day plain profile pictures. I think where PL is holding me back is, when using the more creative color settings in camera and combining it with the technologies DxO stands out for. But I learned today that I am not the only one struggling with this and there is no big hope that DxO is going to solve this.
Maybe there is a way to convert the RAW upfront in the manufacturers own tools to a lossless format to preserve colors and than do the denoising and optical corrections in PL as suggested above? I haven‘t tried that approach yet.
First denoising in PL. It works on the RAW data. Then export as tiff or dng for further editing.
George
No, once you put RAW data through a manufacturers own RAW processor, PL will not be able to work it’s denoising magic. All the algorithms require RAW data.
NB even though Canon’s DPP can write it’s edits into a .CR2 / .CR3 file, when that edited RAW file is opened In PL, PL cannot use the edits added by DPP. PL only reads the actual / base RAW data.
So after all, it is a valid feature request. Let me state it more general again.
Use case:
As a user I want to transfer the colors of a jpeg which accompanies a raw file under development to that raw file with an automated process (algorithm).
Acceptance criteria:
The final file from the processed raw file does match the jpeg if no further editing was made.
Thank you all. Please vote for this feature. Best regards.
I don’t understand this request. If I want the colors of an in-camera JPEG, I would shoot JPEG-only and use my camera’s settings and output as the basis for any further edits.
I, however, shoot raw-only with my FUJIFILM X-T4 because, after testing, I find that I prefer the images I get out of my raw files using a good raw image developer like DxO PhotoLab or Adobe Camera Raw.
If I really really really want the in-camera colors then, for FUJIFILM, I could still shoot raw and either use the in-camera processing on the back of the camera or tether my camera to my computer and use FUJIFILM X Raw Studio software and the camera’s processor to produce the desired JPEG colors. How could I expect to get genuine “JPEG colors” without using my camera to produce those colors?
I have no idea how you could expect it. But I can imagine it, because I am using an advanced state of the art raw development tool like PL. Which is sold by a inventive company called DxO. Which has a forum, where it has a section called feature requests.
Think out of the box. It does not hurt. Believe me…
I understand what a feature request is and that you may have one that you would like DxO to implement. What I didn’t understand was the need for it and so I offered you three alternative suggestions.
I’m new to the forum and thought I understood that sarcasm was to be avoided here. 
My appologies. Maybe I have not understand it. Which of your suggestion allows the user to combine the advanced technologies for optical correction and noise reduction with the unique colors of a certain in camera look? Could you please point it out.
I found out that this feature request has been proposed before:
The problem has also been discussed in other topics having to do with color rendering in PhotoLab. For now, we would need to try to create a custom preset that matches the color, saturation, contrast, and sharpness of the out-of-camera JPEG - based on the in-camera settings we’ve chosen. But if DxO could automate or semi-automate this, or if a collection of dcp profiles could be found that is spot-on accurate, wouldn’t that be good? If you think so, vote for either proposal (or both). 
Abode’s DNG converter has DCP profiles that try to match the camera manufacturer. I have imported and tried the one for Canon’s Standard Picture Style in PL. I forget how I got the DCP files from the DNG converter and can’t at this moment find a relevant webpage. However, I prefer starting from DxO’s ‘Neutral Colors’ rendering. I can’t remember how close or otherwise the colours the DCP profile gave compared to the SOOC JPEG colours.