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Completely agree.
I’m an IT specialist since two decades, and I really can’t see a single point in periodically verifying license with this pressure on customer.
Once a product is active, it is active!
Especially if you’re not using the subscription formula.

Well, if I’d have to think in a pessimistic way, I really would say that DxO intention - doing this frequent control - is to prepare the software for a future subscription formula plan.

But, that said… I strongly hope I’m wrong.

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Or checking for illegal copies.

George

The illegal copies should be detected at install time, shouldn’t they? That verification becomes useless later… how can a copy, which is legal during installation, become illegal afterwards?

I understand that they could make these periodic check for the “install on 3 computers” limit, but I still think that a 6/12 months frequency would be enough for that verification. 37 days sounds a bit too strict to me: this number creates a terrible parallelism with monthly subscription software services, in my mind.

By being part of a disk clone from one computer to another.

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most likely, this will not work.

Like Obetz said, the OS will refuse to work due to hardware check, that’s not an applicable case.

Plus, that’s the case of legal license used on a new computer. That license will be still legal, anyway.

You may be right. But there are other cases to modify the software. It wasn’t that long ago there was lively bussiness in illegal software. Everybody had PS or AtoCad. Well, not everybody :confused:
To be sure, you don’t have to activate it again? Just the connection?

George

George, any hypothetical illegal DxO package would rip the licence check (both on install and at opening) off from the exe files.

The licence check is useful for usage or usage-on-machines monitoring purposes. Also for legality check, but 37 days are absolutely a speedy (way too frequent) period for that kind of verification.
Illegal usage can be checked against a license server at install time and then once every year… Usage-on-machine can be safely checked once per six months.
Those would be reasonable frequencies for me.
Plus, I really think that those checking purposes should be clearly stated by DxO.

It’s not just DxO. Adobe do something similar…
https://community.adobe.com/t5/account-payment-plan-discussions/when-exactly-do-licenses-get-verified/td-p/12690386?profile.language=en

@Joanna
Adobe does even worse! :grin:
Try switching off internet connection while using Adobe suite… It will speed down like hell. :wink:

Now it’s not the fact that it’s done but the frequency used :smiley:.
But I do understand you.
Do you know how this forum works? How they keep track of what you’ve read by example?

George

I hope you’re not comparing an internal computer software to a public website, George. I really hope so.
Do you know how much Google (or whatever big tech Company) tracks you over the web? Think again.
That comparison is totally wrong.

Plus, I didn’t read the eula (my fault) as Joanna suggested: so the reason for my first post is I just didn’t know about that licence check was done.

But, that said:

  • dxo does NOT clearly state the purpose of the verification
  • so I can freely assume that’s for legal use and licence usage numbering record
  • therefore my last statement, that remains still: check frequency is too high

What if I’m on a vacancy for two weeks after I didn’t use the software after another three weeks? I’ll be close to check limit. That’s not such an impossible scenario! With six months you’ll be totally safe even with less frequent usage patterns.

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I did ask you if you have to activate the software again? I don’t know. I’m always on line. But in that case it’s just a matter to go online. You had problems with the connection to the DxO server but that has been solved.

George

I’m always online too, but that’s not the point.

If I don’t make any post production for many weeks (I’m an amateur photographer, that could easily happen), thus not starting PL for a long time, the Damocles’ sword of online license check will be on my neck.

Acceptable? Not so much, for me.

But I understand who can live with that.

I used to work with a lot of people whose computers were not connected to the internet. This is why there has to be a way of off-line activation or activation via a different computer. That is SW activation. Not a check with a licence server with every use.
I also use BMD resolve for video editing. I can download updates from any computer and then move the file to the computer with resolve to do the update. The update licence check is for a licence on that computer.

That’s what well designed licensing systems look like, Chris! :smiley:

The problem with disconnected licensing is that, as long as the computer is disconnected from the real world, clocks can be altered and disk clones can be reinstated in order to fool the licence checks. If folks don’t like having to connect, they should have thought about the possibility of that happening before the mass theft of hacked Adobe licences, which prompted the subscription model.

I have to agree, it’s a pain if you are traveling. Especially in parts of Africa.

That’s another good point Spike.

I am travelling frequently over (mostly European) time zones… The laptop runs predominantly on GNU/Linux, moreover when I use it under W10 then always disconnected from the internet. In December I upgraded to PL8, time was correct where I was, but DxO wouldn’t activate it. At some moment I checked the time zone. It was still on CET. It is supposed to be a perpetual license… current time (or “name” of a computer) has nothing to do with it. Not be able to contact a server when DxO goes bust (it won’t be the first time a software company disappears), means also losing your license. One of my important reasons to go for PL, was the perpetual license.

And stop using the time and time zones.