Format Apple Pro RAW

A quand le support du format Apple “PRO RAW” par exemple du boitier iPhone 16 Pro Max ?

Merci d’avance
Cordialement, MR

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If you check the supported gear page, you’ll see that mobile phone image support is very limited in PhotoLab.

I don’t expect that DxO will extend gear support to include newer iPhones and such anytime soon.

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I agree and it is the one big failure in my opinion as I do use my phone quite a bit.

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To be honest, I do not think it will come. DPL is a raw converter and Apple Pro Raw is a highly processed file and absolutely not a raw file. The only thing “raw” about it is in its name but that’s pretty much it. I like Apple and I am a mac user but this name is misleading many people.

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I always hear this argument, yet we can still view and edit jpegs in Photolab for some reason, which are 100% not raw files.

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I hear you and agree that you can view jpg files. To edit them is already a different story. To edit a jpg in DPL is a very limited affair and experience. Many fuctions are just not available for a jpg file. In my opiniion spending a few thousand Euros etc… on camera equipment then a few hundred bucks on DPL etc… and then shooting jpgs does not make sense for me. But I know that other people look at the world differently and that is ok.

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Yes and I also don’t prefer to shoot jpeg, just showing an example that there are solutions available for “cooked” files, and other major players like Lightroom and Capture One can support these files without problems.

The iPhone takes very usable (Pro)Raw photos these days and it’s a shame that we can’t take advantage of the power of Photolab to further improve them.

When I’m traveling, one of my favorite combos is shooting with a 40 or 50mm prime on my camera, and relying on my iPhone for the occasional wide angle or landscape shot. It’s a shame I have to use two separate programs to view, tag, and edit photos for each camera.

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Have you thought of setting your iPhone to take JPG?

I have had very good results editing JPG files in PL, yes there are some functions missing but everything you need is available to improve old JPG files.

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Thanks for the suggestion, I might eventually resort to this as a workaround.

Right now my iPhone files are all proraw or HEIC and I was trying to avoid converting them all to jpeg- but I agree it’s better than nothing.

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You might want 16 bit TIFF as an intermediary format to preserve some of the headroom that HEIC and ProRaw have.

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Yes, this is a great use for Apple ProRaw, ditto times when certain technical or creative considerations prevail. These files are well worth editing in Nitro, etc. to take full advantage of the format with full-size TIFFs exported to PL if needed. Archive the ProRaw originals and delete the huge intermediate TIFFs if storage is an issue. However, for simple documentation of everyday things, the ProRaw format (and TIFF conversion) strikes me as overkill.

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TBH, this is the typical argument of DxO and its fanboys.
Maybe it is not a RAW format in the way you understand it and maybe it is a bit pre-processed, but at the end you have all capabilities of processing it as any other RAW format and far beyond formats like HEIC, JPG,…… LrC an others show what is possible.
But the ignorance of DxO forced me to leave their products behind me, although the quality of Photolab and PureRaw is top notch.

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Give the app ProCamera a try, it offers more options than the default iPhone app and it allows editing the ProRAW files and save them as HEIC or JPG.

Maybe that is because they stick to what they know best.

No reason not to broaden ones experience :wink:

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They probably are happy where they are and prefer a more narrow focus. I can see the point but they don’t talk about their plans so we will never know if it is on a list somewhere.

Many of the most popular cameras today are smartphones, and while already capable, they would probably receive the some of the most benefit from noise reduction and optical corrections to take the quality up a level.

I really don’t understand the strong resistance from so many on these forums to supporting ProRaw, HEIC etc - but it doesn’t seem either side is likely to be convinced of the other any time soon :upside_down_face:

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Is there a resistance? Some want it and some do not I agree but I suspect nobody would complain if DxO implemented support provided it did not impact the core development of PL (and importantly the remedying of some of its short falls).

You call it ignorance, I call it focus. If you have a Porsche in the garage and want to go off-road you will not be happy, you better get a Jeep. Life is about decisions and you correctly made yours and I made mine. There is nothing to complain about that. The rest is wishful thinking.

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And what is their focus? To deliver the best Raw developer/editor? I would fully agree, but this is no reason to ignore a huge and continously growing number of cameras. And yes, I call a iPhone a camera. I myself have a camera equipment consisting of 2 DSLRs and lenses covering a range from 8 - 600mm plus other equipment to cover certain scenarios. But when I’m out in the mountains (which happens very frequently) I prefer to use my iphone, as in this case simply weight counts. And in the “mountain scenario” quality of the pictures (thanks to Apple ProRaw) is equal to those of my DSLRs. For all other scenarios my DSLRs are used.
So I would be happy to be able to use 1 excellent RAW-Developer, which could be DxO. But currently I have to stick to LrC.

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