Exports are completely different from workspace

As you can see in the image, the exports (right) are totally different from the workspace preview (left).

It’s as if the tones are warmer and the light is brighter. Makes it impossible to make good edits this way. I cannot figure out what the issue is, either…

I tried messing around with the ICC profile on the export, but none of these seem to actually do anything to change the color. I also have color preservation turned on.

I hope somebody here is able to help… because I just got this program. I had ON1 Photo Raw before, and had absolutely no issues there.

Can you post a link to a share on which we can download the original file and the .dop file?

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Are you using the DxO Wide Gamut workspace - or Classic/Legacy ?

Also suggest you post a screenshot of your Export to Disk settings …

It looks like the original has a green cast in it and the jpg not.

George

Did you have soft proofing on? And with a special ICC profile? And selected for printing another profile?

George

I use DxO Wide Gamut Workspace, but I’ve tried both and neither seem to make a a huge difference.

These are my Export to disk settings:

I’ve tried all ICC profiles though and none of them give the same result as in the viewer.

This program doesn’t seem to actually work straight out of the box… because I initially didn’t even make any tweaks to the settings. But when exporting the exports came out with a reddish hue anyway.

I’ve had soft proofing on and off, makes no difference.

Also here is the .dop file and the raw file: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1L0gB61bROuSm3hbp3MsvTzpp2NaL6S12/view?usp=sharing

Did you calibrate your screen?
And do you have a AdobeRGB screen and or printer?
To my taste your print looks better as your screen.

George

PS. Sorry, you didn’t print.

No soft proof. And to me the right colors.

George

After downloading, I checked the DOP file and found that the FilmPack filter was set to Cool Tone, even though that tint wasn’t visible in the editing screen, which might explain the appearance of the first image in your post.

Like @Wolfgang and @George I have checked exporting your file with no adjustments and the JPG (on the left) looks fine…

My guess is that you exported a different virtual copy?

Anyway, here is your DOP with my version added…

DSC04781.ARW.dop (31,2 Ko)


Oh, and don’t use ClearView Plus. The FilmPack fine contrast sliders are much more subtle.

@Cookiejar

Have been experimenting with your file/s and all I can guess it’s the external viewer you have used for your exported file …

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more in detail
Normally, you have to set PhotoLab to at least 75% for accurate color reproduction. The Loupe tool will enhance the display even further. Comparing your master and the export file should look identical in PL … (I checked that).

To minimize color differences, I set my calibrated monitor to sRGB ( → the forum software doesn’t use ICC profiles and interprets screenshots as sRGB ) and even rebooted the machine. Then I placed PL and IrfanView carefully side by side to capture both renditions in one screenshot.

As you can see, IrfanView, set to use the monitor profile (in this case, sRGB), can handle JPEG exports using the AdobeRGB profile. – However, there are slight differences when rendering in PL, although not as strong a color cast as you describe.

Also, I couldn’t detect any green tint at all.

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You have your export ICC Profile set to “Same as Soft Proofing” … and you are Soft Proofing for ICC Profile = Adobe RGB ;

  • Is your monitor capable of displaying the Adobe RGB colour space ?!

  • Try changing the ICC Profile to sRGB … I reckon that will make a difference.

John M

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In that case color management should take care for a right conversion to the monitors color space.

George

Assuming the tool being used for image comparison is able to make the correct conversion - and it’s set to do so.

A simple check would be to export for ICC Profile = sRGB … and see if that helps.

@Cookiejar I had a mad thought and ran your file through ExifTool, which tells me that the colour space assigned by the camera is actually sRGB.

Which leads me to wonder why you are trying to mess around with soft proofing, since the image is already in sRGB and needs to be in sRGB unless you are exporting for printing.

Color space is only relevant for the jpg, not for the raw.
I don’t think it’s a matter of color space.

George

@Joanna

Yes, had seen this. :slight_smile:

I was just wondering where this green tint comes from and whether it has something to do with the user’s monitor settings. In this case, an AdobeRGB file combined with a poorly configured viewer or lack of color management would appear comparatively warm on an sRGB monitor, while the file doesn’t have out-of-gamut colors.

Let’s see what the OP reports …

@Wolfgang As you know I am no master of colour but I can load an image successfully and export, to the same directory, not my usual strategy but in this case I wanted the output as a ‘Reference’ image and it is convenient if it is easily located!

So here is the comparison with edited RAW on the left and exported JPG as Reference on the right at 40%, 80% and 17% (fit to screen) and with all options off

@Cookiejar I haven’t a clue why you saw what you captured but I can’t get remotely close to it !?

and this is FastRawViewer viewer showing the RAW versus the JPG and then the embedded or imbedded JPG versus the exported JPG

PS:- @Cookiejar Please repeat the experiment of exporting the JPG and then making it the Reference image and doing the comparisons that I did. If they both show the same and as you showed in the left image of the snapshots in Post 1 then Colour gurus already posting to this topic may be able to help resolve your PhotoLab setup up issues!?

Thanks all for the responses! I tried to respond earlier but it said wait 24 hours before posting again.

@George My screen is calibrated but it isn’t my screen, other exports from RAW editing programs are fine in the same viewer.

@Joanna How do I change the FilmPack Filter? I don’t think I’ve actually done anything to tweak this. I just launched DXO for the first time.

And as for the soft proofing… I tried with and without soft proofing. I experimented with all the settings, couldn’t get it figured out.

Thanks for testing this through for me. I really don’t know… I might re-install DXO Photo Lab 8 and see if that fixes my issue. I just don’t think I’ve tweaked any settings at all. I just installed it and went to work in it.

Go to the FilmPack palette…

As you can see here, the filter has been activated and the default is the Cool Tone.

If you accidentally activated the filter, this could well be why you got the tint that you saw.

As I have mentioned, if you are not printing, there really is no need at all to use soft proofing.

Don’t waste your time, it’s highly unlikely to make any difference.