DxO = workarounder’s heaven 
At first I thought you had some unimaginably fast computer. Only after a while did I notice that “Heavy crop, that’s why so fast.”
So good I mentioned it 
In fact, the difference was at normal image size with DX=1min to Deep Prime=19sec. But I had to change the image because PL5 could not read the .dop of PL6.
for me the new version is as useless as version 5 and i will stay with Photolap 4 or look for an alternative.
There are 3 reasons why:
- modern cameras produce so many pictures per second that it is very hard to find the very best shot in a series. Since many years DXO refuses to enable the users to compare two or more pictures and the usual excuse (either use or third part software or “we don´t want to overload the app”) is sorry to say BS.
- vendors are producing more new lenses and cameras as DXO is able to deliver the respective profiles. This problem gets even worse as there are more and more cross vendor adapters available allowing users to use e.g. Canon glass with a Nikon. Without a function to enable the user to define his own camera-lens profile (until DXO deliver a professional one) DXO will be unable to deliver its core function.
- if the most energy went into noise reduction, for me it is as relevant as Volkswagen presents a new Bugatti sports car with 450km/h highspeed . Nice to see, no practical need for it, as the bulk of my photos are between ISO 64 and ISO 1600
So, why should i upgrade? the answer is easy, only because you don´t support new cameras in previous versions. Think about this unique selling point… Greetings to your marketing/productmanagement
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Indeed…
Yes, this has been an oft repeated request - but;
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It’s hardly a “show stopper” … there’s a raft of effective alternatives for image evaluation; many of them totally free to use.
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Even if DxO were to provide this feature within PL, I doubt many would be happy with the (likely) sluggish performance - as PL needs to render each image from a list of corrections - - from scratch (that is, PL is a non-destructive editor … it’s not simply throwing the encapsulated JPG up on the screen).
John M
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I use FastRawViewer for culling as it is VERY fast, displays the RAW data and has functions to evaluate sharpness. It is very configurable for ‘deleting’ and marking (stars etc) which flows through to PL just fine. Finally it is very reasonably priced!
My workflow:
- Delete obvious bad photos (delete actually moves the photos to a sub-directory so you can restore if you make a mistake)
- Mark photos with stars etc as required.
- Open PL and set appropriate filters to see the photos you want to work on. You can also reject photos if you decide you no longer want want.
I use XMP sidecars for this workflow and do not rely on the database.
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1, 2, 3 o’clock, 4 o’clock work… workaround rock 
You’re sure you know that it’s not a show stopper from people who turnt their backs towards DxO? Because for me this is a show stopper and unfortunately none of the plenty and/or free of use alternatives compares the results of DxO unless there’s an export as JPG or TIF. But you’re right, this alone is hardly a show stopper, it’s just one of all features on the show stopping list. And it gets larger by the day.
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Hi John
but at some point it’s like I need some other software for all things
FRV for fast culling and comparing 2 till 4 photos
LR6 or A Photo to open DNG
any software to work with HEIF
one stable DAM solution
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I’m a long time user of DPL and I like the Nik collection, but to ignore all the very important features I need ( im not a pro) around the excellent RAW features for me looks like ignoring all the requests of loyal customers and the features the market calls for.
That’s my private non pro opinion
Enjoy the weekend
Guenter
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Totally agree with you @wweick
As a user since PL2, I realized I shouldn’t expect any new editing tools on this software. I don’t think they have the “know how” in order to develop new editing tools. After all, all they did is copy paste from Nik collection.
They only focused on squeezing the lemon more and more. PureRaw is the same app just with less features, nik collection is more or less the same as the free Google version.
I didn’t upgrade from v4 to v5 because all they did with the control points is just moving the hardcoded luminance and color setpoints into user changeable values via slider. The did the same from pl3 to 4. The famous Color wheel HSL is just a different visualisation of the Hue&Tint sliders. Although much better ui for the user, but it didn’t involve any new editing tool as regard to the software developers.
No new “photography editing” tools since pl3. Which means, if all other compatitors move forward, PL actually move backwards. Just noise reduction is always getting a little bit better and better.
On Black Friday if it would be less then 70$ , I will upgrade and keep the option for future upgrades. There’s some rumors about 40% off very soon.
Otherwise I will probably keep on my workflow at present. Raw de-mosaic and basic adjustments in Dxo and then exporting to Luminar Neo for creative editing.
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What type of DNG will PhotoLab not open? I know DNG is a rather broad term, but I have camera-native Pentax DNGs as well as Adobe-converted DNGs from Pentax PEFs. Those two types comprise 80% of my library.
PhotoLab will not open compressed lossy DNG files. These are DNG files created by Lightroom or Camera Raw when merging HDR, Panorama, or HDR Panorama images. I think this is one thing that DXO is missing out on. If it won’t do stitching, or panos or hdr merges then I think it would be a good thing to be able to adjust these files.
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IIRC, anything flushed through Topaz AI software (Sharpen, DeNoise or Gigapixel) first
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Hi,
DNG’s from Vuescan Scan operations
DNG’s from Huawei P30pro
DNG;s from Samsung S20
I can open all the files in various software tools like Affinity, freeware e.g.
So where is the problem for DXO?
I forgot that I have had a support call to Mr. Hamrick (vuescan) about this problem, and he told me that Vuescan produces Standard DNG and the problem must be solved by the software mnufacturer…in this case DXO 
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And because all other software tools I own can open this DNG’s I trust Mr. Hamrick
DeNoise AI “RAW” profile files can be processed in PL (not sure you’d ever wish to though), not so for Sharpen or Gigapixel - I presume as DeNoise RAW allows you to save as a linear DNG with no compression including the supported camera data, whereas Sharpen and Gigapixel write back to the original image with no options, converting it to a linear DNG directly according to their algorithm
I switched from LR to PL earlier this year after Fuji support was added to DP and was impressed with the results. When PL6 was released I was eager to access DP XD as described in the marketing material and decided to purchase the upgrade immediately. I’m a little disappointed to find out that support for Fuji will be added in an update and don’t feel this fact was made sufficiently clear on the store page. There is even a screenshot in the PL6 User Guide showing RAF processed using DP XD: General image corrections – PhotoLab Guidelines
Sure, I could have downloaded the demo and tested all relevant features before pulling the trigger. In fact, I now plan to do so going forward. The point is that the experience has made me cautious about purchasing future upgrades and I want to feedback this experience and outcome to DxO. A simple asterisk and note regarding the current feature disparity on the store page would have avoided this.
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You certainly should give 'em this feedback. Hopefully they’re reading this topic - but personally I find the feedback options for tickets created at support.dxo.com a reliable way to do this. FWIW. 
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“Standard DNG” is like “standard text” — the only accepted consistency is what it is intended to represent (pictures or text, respectively). There is A LOT that can go in a DNG file. In fact, DNG is a variation on TIFF and just look at all the TIFF incompatibilities that have existed for decades.
DxO support DNG files that conform to specific cameras’ profiles, which is to say they have a supported camera list and they also support DNG files from those cameras (or via Adobe’s conversion). Which gets back to the well known limitation of PhotoLab/PureRAW. It has to support the camera you use.
The only exception to this is the linear DNGs exported by PhotoLab/PureRAW themselves, because DxO know what they’re dealing with in that case.
Hi,
I’m not the only user that is asking for basic support for the DNG’s I wrote above. Take a look at all the discussions about Apple and other brands.For me it’s still a break in the workflow by creating a project and also need some DNG’s because I take some shots with the Oly, but my wife take some with her Huawei in Pro modus.
But i can only talk for me and post my opinion.
Enjoy the week
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