Hello everybody
maybe i haven’t seen it, but is it possible to let the bulk rename feature work like Adobe Bridge, so that RAWs and it’s JPG will get the same number?
Example:
original: 001.RAW, 001.JPG, 002.JPG, 003.RAW, 003.JPG,…
new name: new_001.RAW, new_001.JPG, new_002.JPG, new_003.RAW, new_003.JPG
at the moment the new names would be:
new_001.RAW, new_002.JPG, new_003.JPG, new_004.RAW, new_005.JPG
and this breaks the connection between the files.
Can you please attach a screenshot of the renaming panel so that we can see how you set renaming. I got the impression that the targeted names could have been created with a slightly different setting.
As far as I see, all you want is to add a prefix, but you seem to change the name completely. Maybe you can reformulate the renaming?
Stenis
(Sten-Åke Sändh (Sony, Win 11, PL 6, CO 16, PM Plus 6, XnView))
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Isn´t one of the problems that Photolab still can´t display pictures in the subfolders together with the pictures on the first level if the first level is selected?? Both Capture One, iMatch and PhotoMechanic and even XNView can do that
the relationship between the cr2 and jpg is gone.
Adobe Bridge does a besser job. The CR2 and the JPG thst belong together are getting the same number.
Stenis
(Sten-Åke Sändh (Sony, Win 11, PL 6, CO 16, PM Plus 6, XnView))
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A work around is to do the renaming of just the raw-files after the culling so it is fixed prior to when you export your JPEG-files.
I would definitely recommend this, as you don’t have to deal with derivatives from processing, whether DOP files or exported versions. I use a third-party app ( for Windows ) that allows all kinds of renaming. Just that instead of renaming the RAW and JPG file pairs in sequential order to 001, 002, 003, I simply keep the camera’s frame number, which has the same effect.
more on this → here … (also on how to handle images taken with two cameras)
In your initiating post, you wrote that the files already had a sequence number.
With the setting of your screenshot, you seem to replace the complete name with something else…and PL treats the files as separate, hence the numbering will be consecutive. If you want to keep the number/sequence, the respective part needs to remain intact.
Over the years I have asked repeatedly that a jpg export setting be allowed/enabled that would embed the original raw image filename as exif metadata in the jpg.
According to what ExifTool shows in the files from Canon cameras, metadata with information that relate to something like a file name seems to be present.
File Name: The name of the file presented to the user, e.g. IMG-1234
File-Index: Corresponds to the last four characters, e.g. 1234
File-Number: Index, prefixed with the number of the parent folder, e.g. 100-1234
Now, I exported, with DPL9, JPEG files and found that they contain two tags in EXIF
Preserved File Name (in my case 20071024_A_0524.CR2)
Raw File Name (presented as 20071024_A_0524.jpg.tmp)
As this example illustrates, the name of the originating file is embedded in the exported JPEG file. Whether all cameras (and respective firmware versions) follow this pattern, I cannot tell by this single test. Nevertheless, the information can be preserved and could be extracted by whatever means suitable. But the name alone is no guarantee that a connection can be re-established, e.g. if files have been renamed.
Can I just clarify something? When you say “its JPG” do you mean that you are taking RAW+JPG with the camera, or are you talking about JPGs exported from PL?
If it is the former, then I’m not sure why you do this, as the RAW file contains a JPG anyway. In fact, when you open a RAW file, it is the embedded JPG that you get to see in most file viewers. And, if you use something like ExifTool, you can extract that at any time.
If it is the latter, once again, I don’t see why you would do this as you can re-export the JPG from PL at any time, use it and then throw it away. Next time you want it, you just export again.
Both these techniques save an enormous amount of disk space and organisation.
Stenis
(Sten-Åke Sändh (Sony, Win 11, PL 6, CO 16, PM Plus 6, XnView))
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Joanna, I don’t think that is strange to take RAW+JPG with the camera. I have done it many years because it makes my culling in my DAM (wether it has been PhotoMechanic or iMatch) easier to be able to see not just an unprocessed RAW but also a “machine made devivate” before I take my decission to keep or delete.
It doesn’t take up any diskspace either since the JPEG-files are all deleted before I stort to process the RAW-files. Unlike A converter like Photolab PhotoMechanic is made for these tasks and used of most sports and event photographers in the US and many pther countries. More advanced photo-DAM-software are also made to keep track on Photolab’s *.dop-files too so that is not an issue.
I record RAW and 1/2 size JPEG for immediate use while traveling. Easy size for sharing and quick edits with Snapseed on an iPad. I treat RAW and separate JPEGs as what they are: separate files, incidentally containing photos of the same object
The main topic here is keeping RAW and JPEG files “connected” and I’d take that for ooc JPEGs and exported files in various formats. A “connection” can be established with the “Preserved File Name” tag, even when a file is renamed in export. This gives us a way to separate and to re-establish “connections” as we deem necessary. Best of both worlds (imo).
I’d not agree to “connections” being hardwired a.k.a. inseparable.
there are several reasons why i have JPGs in addition to RAWs.
What i also have is files from different sources (GoPRO, smartphone,…) and i would like to combine that with the bulk rename and include them in the order and especially in a kind of way that the are then sorted like when the picute was done. So the original filenames won’t metter at the end.
I try to make it a little bit more clear with example names how the final goal of the bulk rename should be:
20250801-SummerVacation-001.RAW
20250801-SummerVacation-001.JPG (corresponding JPG to the 001 RAW)
20250801-SummerVacation-002.RAW
20250801-SummerVacation-002.JPG (corresponding JPG to the 002 RAW)
20250801-SummerVacation-003.JPG (photo was done via smarphone by my son at the time between i did the others with my canon)
20250801-SummerVacation-004.RAW
20250801-SummerVacation-004.JPG (corresponding JPG to the 004 RAW, original sequence number at the camera was 7, i deleted pictures with the sequence numbers 3-6 because i didn’t liked them)
…
so the pairs that came of my Canon hat sequence numbers done by the camera.
I put all pictures we did during that day in one folder, sorting out what we don’t want. And after this, we would like to rename them finally wo that everything where we have RAW+JPG got the same sequence number but there are also numbers where i didn’t have a RAW file.
Seems that it’S not easy to understand. But as Adobe Bridge can do this by default without any problems, i thought that this wouldn’t be some exotic thing.
Clear, you completely replace the original name by setting a new name like
YYYYMMDD-Location-Sequence
And you do this for files of several cameras shooting at more or less the same time.
Imagine the cameras not being in sync and your intended order will fail.
Also, if the cameras were in sync, you’d better include the HHMMSS part in the name and some camera info as a first step. This prevents duplicate file names to a certain degree. But the Sequence part will still be consecutive.
As of now, PhotoLab doesn’t handle split seconds (newer cameras record these) and doesn’t make names unique by adding a suffix, which could replace the Sequence number.
While you wait for such functionality, I propose you use Bridge to set the desired names before opening the images in PhotoLab. Adobe is just ahead of DxO in matters of asset management by at least 10 years and 10 times the resources.