One of the annoying things about everyone having a voice on social media is that you have to wade through fanboys and haters to get to the truth.
PL8 might be fantastic or a cynical cash grab (certainly a complaint many of us had in recent versions where some functionality was moved away from PL to FilmPack and ViewPoint, essentially forcing you to buy those if you wanted a “full suite” where that functionality comes as standard with e.g. Lightroom.
But I’d hotly contest that PL6 is worse than 5, or that 7 is worse than either. PL7 is a powerful piece of software, especially combined with FP and VP.
PL 8 might not the most groundbreaking update we have seen with PL in recent years, but it is a welcome one. PL had fallen behind the competition in terms of some fundamentals. PL 8 has (partially) closed that gap. Take the tone curve for example. That has come out very nice. It will not convince any LR- or CO-users, but for PL users it is a huge improvement. Another example is the loupe tool: A good comprimse between speed and convenience.
In terms of saved time over one year and gained comfort thanks to the new features and improvements, 109 Euros for the upgrade are fair. But I understand PL 5 users complaining about the full price they have to pay for the update.
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herman
(Leica M9 | iPhone 15 Pro | iMac M1 | PL6, FP, VP | Photo Supreme)
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I am a DxO user since 2006.
Always been happy with the program and the results it gives.
However, times are changing.
Where I used to shoot Canon DSLR and Leica, these days I find my iPhone is the most frequently used camera.
I did not upgrade from DPL 6 to 7 because of the lack of phone support, and will skip version 8 for the same reason.
I would be more than happy to pay even the full price if my phone was supported, but as it is now I am slowly moving away from DxO……
If these are not real raw datas and if you understand how Photolab core works (denoising at raw level - don’t know about softness and other lens corrections), i’ts obvious it can’t be developped for phones.
herman
(Leica M9 | iPhone 15 Pro | iMac M1 | PL6, FP, VP | Photo Supreme)
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I know all that, it is the reason I fell in love with DxO Optics Pro 18 years ago
When my main camera is not supported I can’t think of a reason to keep buying the latest and greatest incarnation of PhotoLab.
While I think you’ve every right to pick a product which caters to your needs, I’ll be honest that I’m not super keen to prioritise phone requirements over other things they could be developing for the product.
When it comes to my own phone, Adobe Lightroom Mobile does a fine job of prepping shots for social media and that’s as far as I’d try and push a phone anyway.
I’m 100% with you regarding the inexcusable lack of support for Apple ProRaw. Makes no sense, but I’ve got a good workaround. Was going to stop at PL7 for that reason, then discovered the much improved tone curve in PL8. As this has been something I’ve been yammering about for years, I’m going to pony up (this time).
iPhone Pro’s can output DNG images, which DxO can edit just fine. It’s a RAW editor, not a JPEG editor, so output the RAW DNG’s and you should be fine.
Depends what this dng contains. Dng is a container. Not a specific format.
Like .mov were for video (which could contain a lot of different codecs).
herman
(Leica M9 | iPhone 15 Pro | iMac M1 | PL6, FP, VP | Photo Supreme)
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Maybe DxO works fine with your iPhone Pro.
It certainly does not with the DNG ProRAW files mine produces.
Have you ever tried this?
If so, please walk me through the procedure…
It’s not worth the trouble for me, because when I shoot RAW from the iPhone 14 Pro, it takes forever to transfer the file to my computer, because they’re so large. And forget about transferring 50; it would be impossible. Maybe the newer iPhones with USB-C have a fast USB 3 wired connection that makes it easy, but my iPhone 14 does not.
herman
(Leica M9 | iPhone 15 Pro | iMac M1 | PL6, FP, VP | Photo Supreme)
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I understand from your reply that you think / expect that it will work but you have no practical experience?
Can you substantiate your statement “which DxO can edit just fine”?
Sadly, no, you are mistaken. DxO PL support for iPhones ended with the iPhone X. Single-frame, non-demosaiced DNG raw files were supported for those older iPhones, and still are. ProRaw files (demosaiced linear DNG files) have never been supported. You need to use a workaround. Lack of support has been the subject of several threads on this forum and the general topic has entered in many other forum discussions. Many forum members, for reasons I do not agree with, would like DxO PL to continue to stay away from newer smartphone support period. Many DxO competitors, LR, etc, do support smartphones, and DxO PL may yet (but don’t hold your breath). It’s primarily a business, not a technical decision, and you can safely disregard the DxO website’s gobbledygooked and tortured explanations.