Hi, why is vibrancy greyed out when I select single colours in hsl panel?
The fact that it’s greyed out makes it harder to increase saturation without clipping in single frequencies of colours.
I guess the reasons is because vibrancy is basically saturation which is weighteD on individual frequencyes, so acting on single frequency would make vibrancy act like saturation so it would have been redundant to make both available, but since in hsl tab the frequency range can be expanded this makes vibrancy useful again even when acting on a portion of the frequencies and it should be on in my opinion.
I don’t think it would be helpful to have vibrancy adjustable per-color as well as saturation. Vibrancy is really for the whole image - it’s a selective saturation adjustment that affects some colors more strongly than others. Saturation can be raised or lowered for all colors or for a specific color or range of colors using HSL. I think DxO got it right, even if the interface is confusing.
As Joanna suggested, use Vibrancy first for all colors, then adjust them individually using Saturation.
As for everything there are plenty of workarounds, you could increase vibrancy in the whole image and decrease saturation selectively colour by colour, or you could also use the hue masking in the local adjustments tab to increase vibrancy only on some ranges of colours, but why making it more complicated when there could just be a vibrancy slider on the hsl single frequencies? My question wasn’t about how to do it, but why they blocked this possibility?
But HSL tab allows to expand the range of colours, so it’s not acting on single frequencies, so vibrancy would still be usefull.
For example, how can you boost the saturation of oranges/yellows without clipping any of them? At the moment you can only do it by using hue masking in local adjustments and using the vibrancy slider there, if you can do it there why isn’t it possible to do it in the HSL panel as well, shouldn’t it follow the same logic??
If you move it to the left, the colors or the selected hue gradually shift to grey, and completely when you reach a value of –100. To the right, the colors or the selected hue become more and more vivid, but without the risk of clipping or oversaturating the color.
Probably Saturation slider for individual hue ranges works like global Vibrancy slider, similarly as in LightRoom, Capture One, and maybe Affinity Photo and Nik Color Efex.
Hum it would be great if it was like this, but the saturation slider for individual hues actually clips colours so I don’t think it works like vibrancy.
yes I’m using the “protecting saturated colour” but I think that only affect the colour rendering and not the post effects. But I’m not using the soft proofing, isn’t that only useful for printing?
No, soft proofing also shows you more precisely what will be exported. It helps even if you have an sRGB monitor and are exporting a file in the sRGB color space. (If colors are being clipped, PhotoLab usually deals with that problem upon export.)
If you wish to work on the basis of WYSIWYG (so that you’re not surprised when you compare what you’ve been seeing within PL compared with the exported result) - then it’s best to have Soft Proofing “ON” at all times … set for your intended export destination.
