It’s like Deja vu again that I just bought Z50 II only to find that it is not supported in DxO, same as when I bought Z50 years ago. What month are you planning to support it?
The camera is not mentioned yet. This often means that it will be a while until support is added. As you already have the experience: Wait and don’t hold your breath…
Generally important new camera models are usually supported within one to three months after release assuming DxO is able to acquire a loaner copy for testing.
Mark.
3 month is a lot for a chip from the Z50.
I rellay wont wait 3 month for integration of that old chip (Z50, D7500). I hope i did not have to look to another company who can read the Z50ii NEFs.
Why not use Nikons NX Studio during?
Excellent app, free and with u-point as well.
Because the denoising doesn’t even come close to the quality of DxO or Adobe. Only Adobe is only available as a subscription. I’ll stick with DxO and that’s all OK. But 3 months for a chip (in the cam) that is 5 years old?
It doesn’t make any difference that the original version of the Z50 was released a long time ago. The Z50ii is it different camera and was released in late November, not quite a month ago.
DxO must first acquire a copy of it for testing before it can create a profile for it. Implementation has to be scheduled in and amongst all the other cameras and lenses that they’ve acquired and tested.
Like every software company they don’t just release individual profiles as soon as they’re completed. The profiles are scheduled for monthly releases. Support for Z50II is scheduled for February.
It doesn’t matter if other companies are already supporting that camera. DXO provides the best profiles for cameras and lenses available. Getting the best takes more time. Try to be patient.
Mark
Meanwhile you may try to cheat by changing camera model string with exiftool (https://exiftool.org/). Keep the original NEFs until PL update arrives (!!!).
Execute the following (destructive!) command:
exiftool -Model=“NIKON Z 50” filename(s)
(or maybe even
exiftool -Model=“NIKON Z 50” -CreatorTool=“NIKON Z 50 Ver.01.00” filename)
On the surface, it seems to work with some RAW file downloaded from dpreview. Use at your own risk, as results may be unpredictable and some corrections may be of poor quality (?). Camera MakerNotes are a bit different for Z50 and Z50II and sensors are different too.
Z50 and II have different processors so who knows what tweaks Nikon have incorporated in the signal processing.
There might be more to both sensor hardware and post processing than we know of.
Whatever you think or mean the reason is. IMHO are 3 month to long. Sorry.
But, who knows, the update comes these days or not.
I guess i have to take a testtime and one month with Adobe because i need the cam on friday.
Three months too long? That suggests that you believe the Dxo should have support for the camera the day it is released. It’s only been available to the public for less than a month. Getting a new DxO camera profile in less than a month after release sometimes has happens but is uncommon. As I’ve indicated many times new camera support generally is available from between 1 to 3 months.
Mark
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Maybe uncommon. Adobe has had it in its profile since 29.11. Do better developers work there than at Dxo? Again, I’m not going to switch. What’s the point? I don’t think much of Adobe.
But if you can already change the whole thing with Exifer, it probably won’t be rocket science either. It’s not like Sigma or Viltrox Revers Engineering. At least I would think so. There are also more than enough NEFs or raw images from the cam. Stop defending companies where this is the daily job. I simply think that 3 months would be too much. If it is incorporated after one month, nobody has done anything wrong.
Of course, I have no idea how this works internally. Why should I? I’m just expressing my personal opinion and technically nobody could give a reason why the analysis and conversion should take 3 months. Nobody talked about “day 1” either.
I think you’re forgetting the most important thing, or you’re not aware of the fact that one of DXO’s claims to fame is the quality of their lens and camera profiles. That is one of the most important reasons why many of us use PhotoLab and why long-term users of it tend to be more patient than you.
Yes, Adobe gets their profiles out very quickly, and if you prefer the quality of their profiles over DXO’s maybe you should be using their products instead. Adobe is also a much much larger company and they probably get pre-release camera loaners to update their software. DxO does not have that luxury. So your choices are simple. Be patient for the best or look elsewhere.
Mark
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I totally agree with this answer!
I am not able to verify it with a Nikon raw. But regarding lens profiles for Sony (and this is probably the general rule), it is easy for Adobe to provide these profiles very quickly: it is simply the manufacturer profile (Sony) that is proposed.
In other words, Adobe does nothing other than integrate these profiles into its software. Since the manufacturer provides these profiles when the lens is marketed, they are available immediately!
The proof: from a raw file, the lens correction is strictly identical between:
- the camera jpeg (in raw + jpeg),
- the raw processed by Edit, which is Sony’s own software. (so far, it’s logical).
- the raw processed in Adobe camera raw (LR, PS)
The raw processed in PhotoLab is obviously corrected with a lens profile specific to DxO and much better.
OK. Im using DXO since years. Sorry that im not a Pro or long time user, whatever that is. I am not disputing the quality or anything else. Only that, for me personally, 3 months would be too long. I know that you don’t want to know that the chip is exactly the same as the D50 or the D7500. The 20.9MP sensor is simply not a new invention like the stacked sensor of the Z6iii.
But well, I can and must live with it. You won’t be able to argue away my wish that this doesn’t take 3 months.
Still not support for Z50ii.
The Z50 II is still scheduled for support in February as per their camera/lens support database . Whether you accept it or not, it usually takes 1 to 3 months for support as I indicated in an earlier post. Complaining is not going to get it implemented faster. Of course, you free to vent your frustration as much as you want.
Mark
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Instead of jumping onto Adobe trial, or trying to find a software suite which suppresses noise better then others, why not embrace the noise reduction Nikon offers in NX Studio.
It’s not that bad and while suppressing chrominance noise, it keeps the luminance noise in a very nice balance.
The grain in an image is beautifully rendered in NX Studio and it has always been Nikons signature for both in camera jpgs as well as exports from applications.
In a month you might be able to squeeze the life out of the grain again. 
The answer is simple as that, for me. Its not good enough. There a a lot of photos who are waiting to get a DXO overhaul. But at this time im a lot deeper in Adobe. Topaz is also very good, but not Z50ii capable. The sensor is the same as in D500, Z30, Z50, Zf and so on. I will stay at DXO but im not happy how long this take for a new cam with an old sensor. Thats my problem, i know.
I also really like Photolab but the amount of time it takes to add support for new cameras is very frustrating to say the least. They are makeing me learn to use Adobe since I can’t use PL8 and denoising doesn’t work with JPEG.
As much as a new release of PL is important, I think a new method of testing cameras and including them quicker is of bigger priority at least to me. Now, admittly I’m not buying new bodies all of the time but when I do, I hate that my favorite software isn’t available for 3+ months later. I would suggest working the few camera companies out there so that 3+ months to add support can be signficatly reduced. Just my 2 cents, while I keep checking for z50II support.
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