Request/Suggestion: Fix to avoid being caught-out if NOT using Soft Proofing (with new Working Color Space)

… which is available in PL5 only → different “…(gamma 2.2)” in PL6

For printing, I would export to ProPhoto RGB and print the resulting TIFF file from Preview, ColorSync or Canon’s utility, using a custom ICC profile for my printer/paper/ink.

The results are wonderful. I never knew things could be any better and everyone who used my printing services were totally satisfied.

just continue without any headache and don’t bother, that your PL5 export to ProPhotoRGB doesn’t contain colours beyond AdobeRGB. – You always have been happy with the results.


Supplementary Question (post #8)

1.I want to use the WGCS
2. My camera uses AdobeRGB
3. My monitors are Apple (which I believe are P3) but custom profiled.
4.I export for web/email/etc using sRGB
5.I export for printing to ProPhoto RGB
6.I do not need to soft proof for printing as I use ICC profiles.

7.I also need to teach this stuff to beginners at our club photo,
so I don’t want to have to teach anything more than absolutely necessary.

Just do as you like. – Now in PL6 and depending on the pic, your export to ProPhoto RGB can contain out-of-gamut colours, which your screen most probably doesn’t show, but your print should do.

That’s not really terrible, as I had tried not so long ago → Yet more colour space confusion - #24 by Wolfgang (and also w/ your infamous crabs). The prints then showed some more saturated colours and possibly a ‘better’ gradation, but nothing earth shattering, nothing what I couldn’t do without. And these were straight out prints from PS, no softproof, no correction.

It’s a big difference, if one is on a sRGB monitor and tries to get around w/ wide gamut colour space,
or on one like your’s. A ‘good’ monitor, covering P3, AdobeRGB …, shows most of the colours and you can check with softproofing to sRGB IEC61966-2.1, what / how users see on a sRGB screen.

[ When I was in a photo club (run their homepage and also had put out instructions about CM, beamer,
printing and such → monitor & beamer were in sRGB), I always told them to ‘stay in sRGB, when they don’t know better’ … difficult for some. ]

Now the big question, why ‘should’ you softproof?

  • As long you don’t change colour space, there is no need for – you see on your screen, what’s happening. If you are happy with, what you get out of your prints – no need for …

  • Things get different, when e.g. using matte paper, which cannot reproduce deep blacks and you have to lift the shadows … better in softproof (and w/ the ‘coming soon’ paper& ink simulation)
    [ wherever you might do that … I’ve been using PS so far ].

  • Exporting a pic w/ strong out-of-gamut colours from Wide Gamut WCS to sRGB IEC61966-2.1,
    most probably will look different than when done from Classic-Legacy (PL5 style).
    The reason is, PL6 WG (then) handles colours differently and you should see it on your screen.
    .
    In spite of export, you can compare the masterfile (WG) and a virtual copy (CL)
    – or more interesting softproof VCs (set to sRGB) from each of them …
    and compare them to both exports (WG → sRGB and CL → sRGB).
    If the equivalent results from WG resp. CL look identical, save your time & judge from your screen.