I purchased DXO Photolab 9 and PureRaw 5 as a replacement for Adobe Lightroom however the rendering times are unworkable!! I use my machine to edit and render 4K videos in far less times using Davinci Resolve! Over an hour per image sometimes not even rendering at all. I don’t care how good DeepPrime noise reduction is, if it can’t render in less than 15min per image, I can’t use the software to conduct business!! 7 hours to be better than Lightroom which renders an image out in minutes means Lightroom wins the battle. I like using Photolab, love how its set out but its not acceptable to take so long, to only be marginally better is a mark against DXO Software! I am grossly disappointed in the software’s performance!
Why? PhotoLab contains PureRaw. It can take a RAW file and process it completely without needing to use PureRAW to create an intermediate file. I’m really sorry but you have spent out unnecessarily.
What file types are you trying to work with and what is your workflow?
Did you try out the 30 day free trial before purchasing?
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What GPU are you using? Even my way, way, way, below minimum spec GTX 1050ti can export an image using XD2s in only a few minutes.
Tested on my 2019 iMac to see what I got out of PL 9.3 (yes, there is an update)
With “No Correction” and 60 images, I get average export (to 16 bit TIFF) times of
- 1.00 seconds/image without denoising
- 1.60 seconds/image with Standard denoising
- 4.65 seconds/image with DeepPRIME 3 denoising
- 11.6 seconds/image with DeepPRIME XD/XD2s denoising
Images are from 12 and 22 Mpixel cameras so I’d expect export times to be longer with newer high Mpixel cameras. Total file size for the 60 source images is about 1.3 GB.
BTW, my iMac is below min. requirements due to its GPU. Nevertheless, PL 9.3 works without issues as long as I don’t use AI masking. using AI masking does work too, it just takes its time. Export is fine too.
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There must be really something wrong with your computer, since my 10 years old machine with a 5 years old GPU renders images with DeepPrimeXD2 in 5-6 seconds…
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I will add my thoughts that broadly echo the above
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Please can you state exactly the spec of your PC i.e. what ~ CPU, amount of RAM, which GPU including how much VRAM it has, and what version of Windows are you running?
Why? well as you can see by the comments above you are the only one reporting such lack of performance even compared to at least one poster who is using a sub-optimal GPUA lot of current iterations of editing software need (as per the spec of PL9) a modern GPU with as much VRAM as you can cost wise justify.
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You mentioned buying it
was this after you trialled it and if so did the trial run better and if so what changes might you have made following the purchase?
Unfortunately you will find there are many reports of PL9 failing with machines that are above minimum requirements. Then succeeding with machines below minimum requirements. With nothing coming from DxO, it appears they don’t have a clue what the problem is and therefore have no answer.
The problems are widespread throughout the forum, I wish you luck, you’ll need it.
Luca, it’s not like this is the first person to report problems. This guy is rendering video and so his machine isn’t very slow, yet PL9 is incredibly slow. They need to withdraw this and re-work it so it has consistency. There is no pattern to the problems, and so it will be very difficult to get to root. Maybe more than one cause?
Sure, Gareth… but we haven’t even had details on his machine yet.
CPU, GPU, disks, RAM… Nothing.
Sounds really weird to me.
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When rendering video, how many frames do you render?
I’ve never done that and even don’t know if that’s possible.
George
It’s not like it’s just one person. I don’t think there is anything weird about it at all. When PL8 was launched there were numerous problems, many not resolved by the time PL9 is meant to launch.
If you think about it. Every year at roughly the same time DxO launch a new Photolab. So they get a chunk of money in here and the Black Friday gives it another lease of life until we come round again to the next Photolab.
The problem is if the software isn’t ready by the regular launch date. I am not sure PL8 was really ready but they launched it any way and it made very few changes from PL7. PL9 has some major changes and it is pretty obvious that it is in no fit state for release.
There are high spec computers out there that are crashing and silence from DxO - because they knew this was going to happen. Paying off the Youtube “specialists” isn’t going to work in the real world.
Apart from everyone having differing problems with the so called AI masks, they are not even very good, you can even see this on badly compressed video on Youtube.
Unfortunately, I think they have really buggered it up. And that’s a shame I had a great deal of time for DxO but times change and so do companies.
Have you enabled acceleration via whatever GPU you have installed? On windows, in PL8, it’s \Edit\Preferences\Performance. Make sure your GPU is selected and enable OpenCL (not sure if that latter is important).
I was using PL8 on an older box (3rd gen i5, 32G DDR3, GFX 1050 Ti on PCIE3 (no idea how many lanes) and SATA SSDs a 24MP photo took about a minute to export - and the PL9 demo (even without AI anything) was closer to three minutes. On that same old PC, PL5 was considerably slower until I replaced the hard drives with SATA SSDs - storage speed has an impact as well.
Now with a midrange AM5 Ryzen 7, 32G DDR5, Radeon 9070 on PCIE5v16 and NVME SSDs it’s about 1.6 seconds per export. The box cost me about $1700, with nothing reused from the old one.
I haven’t upgraded to PL9 as I’m uninterested in AI masking, but if you’re using it to make your workflow faster and so increase the value of your time (which as a non-pro I don’t care about), you might consider a slightly newer PC - or even one of the Macs with Apple silicon. Compared to a pro level lens, $1700 isn’t a lot of money. For me, as an amateur, it was step one towards buying a larger pixel-count camera (Nikon D850 or Fujiflilm GFX - both around 50MP) but that’s very much to the side here (and probably TMI - sorry).