I tried the red eye tool in PL 7 Elite complete. The subject was a macropod upon which I needed flash. The DxO manual states that the automatic red eye detection and correction only works for “almond shaped” eyes of humans, and not “round eyes” of animals. Is there any solution other than using a different application in workflow? I prefer to work with raw image files.
Can you post the photo?
I am afraid that the repair tool is the only option, since “red eye” in animals is often different in colour and shape from species to species…
Automatic detection does not work.
You can draw yourself with the tool; Click and drag.
Pascal
I did attempt that after cropping and processing pre-export. It did not seem to have any effect. Does one use the colour adjustment and if so, how does one select the precise area upon which to apply the adjustment? I have posted my copyrighted image as requested by [Lucabeer])[Luca Chichizola]. There are other workflow applications that do not have this issue but remove the red-eye, albeit not always with a faithful image of the natural eye/iris.
PL8 has the new tint mask, with a pipette, which you can use to select just the eye colour, then simply adjust the saturation and tint
Just two control points on the eyes, then saturation at its minimum, and adjustment of exposure/levels/blacks. Took 2 minutes, it was a quick and dirty job: you can see the settings on the right.
Did you use the drawing tool?
I don’t think so.
Pascal
By far the better option. I’ve abandoned my idea of the tint mask.
I have tried control points in the past; sometimes the results are what I wanted, other times not at all. I typically make a copy in PL that appears as a “new” image identical to the one upon which I am working so as not to need to undo from the corrected base image. Moreover, this takes time and with the number of images I need to process for submission for clients, I often get (far) behind. Thus, I have an assortment of my “custom” presets and rely upon automatic features (such as horizon and vertical automatic correction) in so far as possible.
My primary bodies (Nikon Z8, Nikon Z9, OM OM-1 II) have non-human eye detection for AF. Why cannot DxO add this to PL?
Because no automatic CORRECTION (which is very different from “detection”) would provide results as good as the human touch with all kinds of animals (red-eye reflection changes a lot between species!) and situations… The results of automatic red eye correction IMHO always leave A LOT to be desired.
BTW, with the current high ISO of modern cameras and DeepPrime XD2, I would never ever ever use a direct frontal flash to start with in such a situation… My SB-800 flash nowadays is only used as fill light in strong sun, never as primary light source.
If it’s just one photo that needed editing… Well, manual intervention is feasible. But if you have so many images with red eyes that have to be fixed on all of them, and this is becoming heavy and time consuming, I’d really consider changing shooting approach (and not only for the red eyes, but also for the aesthetic quality of lighting and shadows).
The subject was in the shade. I typically use fill flash as well. I have retired my SB-5000 for a Godox V1n for my Nikon kit (with various slaves when I need it) and I use a Godox V1o for my OM-1 II. On Nikon, red eye reduction works reasonably well. I have found that the OM-1 II BSI stacked sensor (nominally same technology as the Nikon Z8/Z9 sensor) has more noise under low light in a raw image than does the Nikon Z8/Z9 sensor. I currently use the MagMod system of light modifiers, and both my Godox V1 flashes have the magnetic rubber band ring for using the modifiers. I have the MagMod teleflash fresnel “extender” and there are conditions under which only a teleflash will yield an acceptable exposure. Eye retina reflection can be an issue in many species, particularly dusk or “night” images of bats. With the number of individuals in some bat images, automation of some sort is the only practical solution.
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How’s Deep Prime XD2 noise reduction working on the Olympus sensor?
I suggest that you post your OM-1 noise question to this Forum. I have not yet licensed either PL8 Elite nor ViewPoint 5 (I have FilmPack 7, the latest version) to upgrade to PL 8 Elite Complete. Once the 2024 Black Friday pricing becomes available, I shall do so. According to one response on this forum, XD2 seems to complete in less wall clock time than does the Deep Prime in PL7 Elite. Thus, I cannot make a comparison. Note that I work with raw image files, not JPEGs nor HEIFs. None of my cameras support DNG format. Does PL8 export to HEIF, and if so, as HEIF is a container format, which internal format/s? I typically export to JPEG from PL to input to Topaz Gigapixel.
I have used the hand-drawn mask and then saturation and exposure to remove red-eye very effectively in the past.
No. While DxO has shown interest in HEIF support in the past, they seem to have decided to not implement it.
I agree that the Olympus sensor question should be a separate topic. I’m sure there will be a good response to it. 