Profil d'entrée linéaire

Bonjour,

PhotoLab 7 permet t-il d’avoir un profil linéaire en entrée, pour Fuji entre autre ?

Si oui comment faire ?

PS : bien sur j’ai cherché sur le net, mais je n’ai pas trouvé de réponse explicite.

Merci
A. Philippe

Welcome to the forum @ALPH

If you’re thinking of DCP profiles, the answer is yes, PhotoLab 7 can apply such profiles to an image.

Check out the following page too:
https://userguides.dxo.com/photolab/fr/modifier-les-images-avec-longlet-personnaliser/#la_palette_couleur

Bonsoir,

Ce n’est pas l’espace de travail que je souhaite modifier.

C’est le profil d’entrée lié à l’appareil, Fuji, que je souhaite adapter. Je voudrais avoir la possibilité d’utiliser un profil linéaire au lieu d’un profil avec une courbe.

Cela est-il possible ? Si oui, merci de me préciser les paramétrages.

Cordialement
A. Philippe

Check out the screen. You’re after the settings marked in green.

PhotoLab automatically selects the input profile according to the camera that was used.
You can manually select whatever rendering you choose any time afterwards.

Other than that, browsing the following might help you: Accueil - TuTo DxO

Bonsoir,

Je n’ai pas “Boitier” comme choix possible pour “Type”.

J’ai récupéré un profil DCP linéaire pour un XT5.

Dans quel répertoire faut-il le placer ?

Merci
A. Philippe

S’il n’y a pas “Boîtier”" dans la liste déroulante “Type”, c’est que très probablement c’est le rendu Noir et Blanc qui est actif et non le rendu Couleur (les deux boutons juste au dessus).

Normalement on peut mettre unprofil DCP dans n’importe quel répertoire.
Il suffit d’aller le sélectionner dans “Type/Profil DCP/Importer le profil DCP”


If there is no “Camera” in the “Type” drop-down list, it is most likely that it is the Black and White rendering that is active, and not the color rendering (the two buttons just above

Normally you can put a DCP profile in any directory.
Just select it in “DCP Type/Profile/Import DCP profile”

Je suis bien en rendu Couleur. Dans Type j’ai le choix entre : Rendu générique, Rendu positif couleur et 4 possibilités liées à DXO Film Pack (installé)

Est-ce lié au fait que se sont des fichiers Fuji ?

Oui, j’ai fait un essai avec des fichiers Lumix : Ca marche !!!

Je peux après importer le profil X-T5 linéaire et revenir sur des photos X-T5. Le rendu correspond alors à un profil linéaire.

Ceci est un bug.

Merci


I’m fine in Color. In Type I have the choice between: Generic rendering, Color positive rendering and 4 possibilities related to DXO Film Pack (installed)

Is it related to Fuji files?

Yes, I tested with Lumix files: It works!!!

I can then import the X-T5 linear profile and return to X-T5 photos. The rendering then corresponds to a linear profile.

This is a bug.

Thanks
Thanks

Hello,

Following discussions on linear profiles in another forum, I am relaunching this topic, which is over 1 year old.

Does using linear profiles with DXO DPL make sense? What does it bring? For which types of photo is it of interest?

Thank you
AP

Bonjour,

Suite à des échanges sur les profiles linéaire sur un autre forum, je relance ce sujet vieux de plus de 1 an.

Est-ce qu’utiliser des profils linéaires avec DXO DPL a un sens ? Qu’est-ce que cela apporte ? Pour quels types de photo cela a-t-il un intérêt ?

Merci
AP

Imo, the profile one uses does not matter unless one wants images to look similar to ooc JPEG files.

For those who care more for artistic interpretations, the profile doesn’t matter, the way to the result will be different though.

Profile selection should be done before customising colours and tonality. Applying a profile at a later stage can have unexpected results and make previous effort vain.

What exactly do you mean by a ‘linear profile’?

Linear profile see: Linear Profile Repository For further details, Google is your friend.

The question is not: is it possible to use other profiles, it’s provided, so it’s possible.

But: what is the meaning of using a linear profile, the linear aspect of the profile.

Thank you


Profil linéaire voir : Linear Profile Repository Pour d’autre précisions, Google est ton ami.

Le question n’est pas : est-il possible d’utiliser d’autres profils, c’est prévu, donc c’est possible.

Mais : quel est le sens d’utiliser un profil linéaire , l’aspect linéaire du profile.

Merci

Did you ever use the “Luminance Curve”,



available since PL 8 ?

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Following the referred link

Linear profile see: Linear Profile Repository

and further down

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4667501

I noticed quite a few examples of what was used in LR to get different renderings depending on the image.

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In PL 8, you might want to play with


and similar.

From my point of view, no; unless you are wanting to precisely replicate the lighting on a certain day at a certain time, or with a specific indoor lighting setup. Such as is used for catalogue shots that have to show precise colours for things like paint or fabric matching.

Linear implies that the tone curve is completely straight, from the bottom left corner to the top right corner.

The link you posted is only if you want to spend money on the profiles that the guy is trying to sell.


Here is a screenshot of how to obtain the camera profile for my camera - first from the list of generic profiles…

… and now, from the camera body specific listing…


Now, I always set my “Picture Setting” on my Nikon to “Flat”. This will only affect what I see in a JPEG or on the rear screen, but it gives me some idea of how the flattened RAW file will look without applying any camera “adjustments”.

Seriously, unless you are doing precise catalogue colour matching, simply forget all about using already created profiles, of any shape. If you really need shot specific profiles, simply shoot a Macbeth target under the same lighting and use PhotoLab’s tool for creating the profile…

Assuming you have included a target in the image area (I have not in this example) position the chart mask over the appropriate swatches…

… and make any necessary changes to the popup palette to the lower left of the image.


P.S. Spot Measure Smart Lighting can drastically affect tonal linearity and is especially useful for placing the black and white points to minimise blocking shadows or blowing highlights.

Without…

With…

If you insist, you can even do horrendous HDR stuff like this…

Here’s a screen showing (fltr) an image with “No Correction”, manually selected camera specific profile provided in PhotoLab and a linear profile from Negative Lab Pro.

We can see that images look different and whether one prefers one over the other does not matter here. The consequence of different profiles is, that customising will be different - if one wants to get similar end results.

Does it make sense to use linear profiles? From a strictly result-oriented point of view my answer is “not really”, but if one wants to start customising “from scratch” and maybe get a more “cinematic look”, my answer is “possibly yes”. Imo, there is no black/white kind of decision to take, but one to try linear profiles and see what they do in your workflow and to find whether you find that useful or likeable it or not.