PR5 - Masks not working?

Denoising seems to be applied to all areas, not only in the masked areas.

LRc with D850-NEF → PR5

Welcome Klenkes. Is using denoise with masking in PureRaw 5 working better for you now, one week later?

I’m a PhotoLab, not PureRaw user, so I can’t test this out for you, but here’s a new video showing PR5 masking working well as designed starting at the 4:05 mark.

Granted the masking in PureRaw is years behind what other apps including Adobe, Luminar, Topaz, and On1 can do to quickly and more accurately select certain image elements (though they generally apply denoising globally). But in terms of masking ability, PR5 is well behind the competition; PR5’s masking is just basic brush masks. But it does seem to effectively apply different levels of denoising to certain image elements and not others, and in his opinion, this is a better reason to upgrade PureRaw than what he sees as the meh-level-of improvement in Deep Prime 3.

Note though: this guy is not using PR as an LrC plug-in, rather standalone, so if it’s still not working for you, try the standalone and see if that works better. (It should work in the plug-in, but this is the kind of bug that can arise early and get fixed later.) You can always open the Raw file in standalone and export back to your Lightroom files folder and import it to LrC there, until this gets fixed. You won’t have LrC edits you made before using the plug-in when you re-import to LrC like this–you could copy-and-paste them to the DxO-edit, but it’s best to run PR first before doing editing in LrC anyway.)

Consider doing a bug report to DxO (this is just a user forum, not a vector to effectively report bugs to DxO).
https://support.dxo.com/hc/en-us/requests/new

No PR user here, but that’s interesting. Thanks for the video link.

Hmmm… I don’t think of Control Points and Control Lines as simple brush masks. They enable a more subtle intersection of attributes for masking than Lightroom does, in my opinion.

EDIT TO ADD: It occurs to me that Pure Raw may not have Control Points or Control Lines? I’ve not used Pure Raw, so I don’t know. But I rely on Control Points and Lines in DxO PhotoLab 8.

@upoint: I agree about better masking in PhotoLab than in PureRaw right now. Whether PL’s masking is better than the other apps I named is in the eye of the beholder. It certainly works differently and often is a matter of experience deploying the masks, as you suggest, in terms of which app approach to masking may be preferred.

But what OP is talking about in this thread is the new addition of masking to PureRaw 5. PureRaw can’t use Control Points or Control lines, just a simple brush mask. You can see it demonstrated in that video I linked to above even without trying PR5. You brush in the areas you want to denoise, or exclude from denoising. It’s where those other apps I named were years ago in masking technique, and very primitive compared to what can be done now in those apps even with brush or other masks automatically selecting edges.

But on the other hand, noise reduction in those other apps is generally done globally and can’t be masked, even when an image would benefit from locally-applied denoising, so this is a good idea.

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