I want to point out something really weird with the new ReShape tool in PL6. Normally, I am still working in PL5 because of the colour space problems in PL6 but, in an attempt to rotate a cropped image, I accidentally exceeded the image area in the top left corner…
So, I thought, let’s try the ReShape tool to just stretch that corner out.
Here is a screenshot of the crop tool after the rotation…
What!!! It seems the ReShape tool can only be used on an uncropped image and, what’s more, it seems to ignore lens distortion corrections.
Even though I was on the beta, this one slipped by me as I would have expected the ReShape tool to work with the visible, framed image. How on earth am I meant to be able to find the bit of the image that needs shifting when I can’t see the framing I want to work with?
So, that’ll be one more reason not to upgrade to PL6 for my serious work yet.
I’ve been using ReShape frequently. On Windows, at least, lens distortion corrections aren’t being ignored at all. When I turn on ReShape, the image stays exactly as it is - but as you have demonstrated, it does take away any cropping that has been applied. There are good reasons for this, so I don’t want this behavior to change. But I do wish the ReShape tool included an overlay that shows the cropped area so that we can make adjustments to fit it. That’s a must in my opinion. As it is right now, I need to keep turning ReShape on and off to see if I’ve completed my task - it adds a lot of time to the job.
I suppose just how severe the crop is and how much the image was rotated.
Look at my screen shot of Wolfgang’s crop and see where the corner boundary is that I wanted to eliminate.
I need a reshaping grid that stretches from corner to corner of the crop, at the angle of the crop, because that is the finished frame I want to trim to.
Then look at where the corners of the ReShape grid are in relation to the position and orientation of the cropped frame. There is no relationship or indication at all.
I believe DxO only ever tested this tool on “straightforward” cases in the middle of an image and, possibly didn’t even consider that folks might want to use it to fill in corners caused by rotation, especially such a strong crop/rotation as I have demonstrated.
I must apologise for not having thrown up this kind of situation in the beta.
We’ve seen some of the ReShape issues while testing. If I remember correctly, the RS grid adapts to the situation found when the tool is activated, but it does not necessarily adapt or show that situation. This issue was found in conjunction with optical and perspective corrections.
Your third screenshot shows a grid that remembers distortion corrections as far as I see from its bent outer lines.
In my test image, I did NOT apply any optical corrections, therefore the grid matched the perspective corrections that existed when I engaged ReShape.
With OC active, the ReShape grid assumes the OC, but the image below it shows different edges.
Note how the ReShape grid has aligned itself to the overall image, but apparently not taking into account distortion corrections, ignoring both the cropping and rotation.
Surely, if I want to use ReShape to adjust something small on a cropped image, I am not going to want to have to increase the granularity and fiddle with points somewhere in the middle of an editing area that is far too large?
Far better that the ReShape grid is, not only aligned to, but also sized to, the cropped image.
@Cecile-C Can someone give us some feedback on this?
I see how this hurts when the crop is so significant - but for a minimal keystone crop or anything less severe, I find it pretty much essential that the grid cover the whole canvas. Just my two cents. The tool does need improvement.
