Hello, I’m just new in using PL7 and I want to replace my current setup of Adobe Bridge + PS for PL7.
I’m very happy on the workflow PL7 enables for me but I think I’m missing something or maybe there is a problem in PL7 printing features.
My setup is a Macbook Pro with M1 and 14" XDR display (using photography D65 screen profile) with Sonoma and PL7.8.1 build 64.
The problem I’m facing is that when I print from PL7 it seems the printer+paper ICC profile and rendering intent is ignored. When I print from PS2024 the printer+paper ICC profile and rendering intent is used correctly.
More details:
In PL7 File/Page Setup option I select the printer (Canon Selphy 1300), paper size (Postcard 100x148mm), orientation (vertical) and scaling (100%)
In PL7 File/Print, in DxO - Color and sharpness i configure:
Color profile: managed by DxO Photolab
(ICC profile): Canon SELPHY CP_RP.icc (a custom profile I created specifically for this printer/paper)
Intent: Relative
Sharpness: 50
When I print, the printed photo shows unwanted colors. It seems the image has not been converted to the printer colorspace. I’ve tried several other printers icc profiles (just to check if there is some change) and it seems the icc profile and intent is being ignored by PL7.
In contrast, in PS2024, when I print with:
Administración de color: Photoshop gestiona los colores (PS manages color)
Printer profile: Canon SELPY CP_RP.icc
Rendering intent: Colorimetric relative
PS converts the image to the target color space and prints it correctly.
It seems in PL7 the options about color profile when managed by DxO Photolab are being ignored.
Does it have sense to someone? I’m missing something?
I’ve just tried to use the printer directly connected with an USB cable. No changes. It’s still the same problem.
The driver for the printer is the same when using it via wifi or via usb: “Canon SELPHY CP1300 HTTP-AirPrint”. Canon support page states the printer driver for MacOS is managed by macos with AirPrint.
I have searched for AirPrint in the forum and I have found several posts, including some messages from @Joanna . Unfortunately for my Canon Selphy CP 1300 there is no other driver than the MacOS Airprint provided.
The problem is that PS2024 is printing correctly (in PS2024 I was using also the airprint driver) but PL7 is not.
I can think if AirPrint is somehow the problem it should affect both PL7 and PS2024 the same but the problem only happens in PL7.
I understand AirPrint can handle color management with some kind of trickery that makes it better to use non-airprint drivers, but the problem here is that PL7 seems to not manage the color transformation to the target printer-paper icc profile although in the printing dialog PL7 has the option to the user to specify the ICC profile to use. PS2024 seems to manage correctly the color transformation to the icc profile in the equivalent printing dialog.
What happens, if you export a JPG out of PL, open that in Mac OS preview and then print it?
Maybe it‘s just my prejudice, but Canon Selphy printers were meant to get quick postcards from portable devices, not necessarily as output target for RAW converters. Adobe has a much larger team to make „every printer work“ on PS, DxO is a much smaller company. Would be my guess…
Preview app in MacOS doesn’t have the capability to manage color and to select the ICC profile and rendering intent for the printer. What I want is to print using the ICC profile I created for the printer.
MacOS ColorSync Tool effectively provides the capability to use ICC profiles: opening the image (i.e. a tiff with srgb profile) in ColorSync Tool, I can make it to match the icc profile of the printer (in my spanish macos using the ColorSync option “Hacer coincidir con el perfil”), selecting the output profile for the printer (Canon Selphy CP_RP.icc) and the rendering intent “colorimetric relative”. This converts the image from the srgb color space to the printer color space keeping the in-gamut colors exactly the same and adjusting to out of gamut colors to the nearest color). Then, I print from ColorSync using the “Imprimir como destino de color” (print as color target) and this printed photo is correct as I would expect (the same as it is when I print from PS, specifying to print using the icc profile of the printer).
The problem is that PL7 seems to be ignoring the profile in the print dialog:
I understand the expected behavior of the profile selection in the PL7 printing dialog is to convert the image to the target color space using the specified rendering intent so when the data is sent to the printer (and the printer doesn’t try to modify it because it’s specified “Color profile: Managed by DXO PhotoLab”) the printed photos matches the colors on the screen.
My guess now is that PL7 is ignoring the color profile the user specifies in the printing dialog. I don’t know if this happens only for some printers (a bug) or if this happens for all the printers (a bigger bug) or I’m missing something else (my bug)
Tagging DxO Support like that is unlikely to get a response. DxO just don’t react to support requests made in this forum. You need to report the problem via this page: https://support.dxo.com/hc/en-us/requests/new
