Hello friends i am finaly back on dxo forum with a new desktop with dxo plv8

[OXiDant (Peter)]

hello every one old and new,

geesh owning a new for me/us house is time consuming.
time flies when your having fun, eh work to do.
because my older pc wasn’t able to proces my images any more in a normal speed and i didn’t had the time to wait after every adjustment i just stopped for a wile processing images.
But my son is now also enthousiast photographer, race cars mostly, so the raw files where piling up.

So i assembled my bought new desktop parts and started in between my renovation jobs which my wife "asked me to do, to rebuild my working applications and such on this new desktop. (Which pointed me out that i was forgotten a lot how i did set up things…
wel almost everything is done… and my old desktop is running next to my new so i can shift mid screen to both.

Which brings me to the subject dxo photolab v8 elite suite.
1 recreated my workspace to the 2025 v8 possibility’s made my own palettes.
updated my 2-023 preset for default

preferences:
which brings me to the question how good/bad is the xmp syncronise metadata and keywords now a day’s?
in earlier version i was checkboxed read only modes for keywords and metadata, but it seems that in v8 this checkbox is gone.
So it seems that synchronize checked is needed in order to read.
i use adobe bridge to create a xmp file is the dxo verison the same value? ( if it sees no xmp file it will automaticly create one i read in dxo preferences.)

i have set up a few folders which i prepared in bridge ( tagging and meta data and skimming/culling) So i hope i can scheduwal one’s a week one evening sitting behind my desktop to edit and such.
retraining my skills on dxo photolab because geesh it 's sunk deep in my brain i am afraid.

so any tips and heads up about v8 would be welcome

when i have some “5 star” images processed i will post them in the “share your images”.

right, time to stop for now. Have to work tomorrow and i try to go to bed before 0:00 now a day’s instead of 01:30 . yep i am getting older or wiser or both … ( unlikely in the wiser part by the way.)

@mwsilvers quick question do your filmpack presets still work in v8? or are those “broken”?

regards,

Peter

[mwsilvers (Mark - New Jersey, USA)]

Welcome back Peter! My presets still work except for the Fuji film types. They can now only be used with raw files from Fuji cameras that support them. This was as a result of a recent request from FujiFilm. Keep in mind that my set of presets (which was also updated by @Joanna with new film types several years ago) has not been updated with newer types since then.

Additionally, one of the very useful new features of PL 8 is the ability to immediately see the results of almost all drop down menu items in the editing window, including all FilmPack film types, by hovering the mouse pointer over them. As a result, all the film types in the Color/B&W Rendering section’s dropdown menus can now be viewed this way. This feature reduces the value of my presets significantly.

Mark

[BHAYT (Bryan [WIN10, PL8, VP4, FP7, G9 & EM1 Mkii, RTX 3060])]

@OXiDant

which brings me to the question how good/bad is the xmp syncronise metadata and keywords now a day’s?

@OXiDant Peter welcome back and I am glad you have finally built your new machine, mine are still the same but in new cases and all liquid cooled.

But why rebuild the software from scratch and not clone? You will still have to re-enter the licences for a lot of software but not all, albeit you would then have to upgrade from Win 10 to Win 11!

@OXiDant

which brings me to the question how good/bad is the xmp synchronise metadata and keywords now a day’s?

As far as I can tell not changed whatsoever, it is as good today as it ever was, or not depending on your opinion.

@OXiDant

in earlier version i was checkboxed read only modes for keywords and metadata, but it seems that in v8 this checkbox is gone.

There has never been an automatic “read only” mode for keywords and metadata and that has been a contentious issue for many years, with some on us!

So the options in PL7 were and the options in PL8 are as shown below

Camera metadata is automatically read but IPTC and keywords are read optionally but the option for synchronisation is just one option and it will set automatic read AND write.

To “prevent” synchronisation, where DxPL with both read and write the metadata, i.e. it will read it from the image or the xmp sidecar file and will write its own format for keywords back the the image (or sidecar), you will need to use the settings shown for PL8 in my snapshot.

To then read the metadata you must select the images from which you wish to read the metadata and execute the ‘File’/‘Metadata’/‘Read from image’.

This is the only way that the metadata will be transferred from the image (and xmp sidecar) into DxPL.

If you then want to update the image (xmp sidecar) you must then use the ‘Write to image’ option shown in the snapshot.

BUT setting the ‘Preferences’ option that way will mean that any metadata contained in the DOP will be read and entered into the database when the image is “discovered by” (imported into) for the first time, i.e. if it is not already in the database.

Once in the database then any external changes made to the metadata will be detected by DxPL and flagged with an “S” as follows, rather than being automatically discovered and read if the ‘Synchronise’ option is set as shown in my snapshot for PL7.

As an example, in PL8.5 I select an image and enter the keywords “Tulip” and “Faded” but to update the image I need to write that metadata back to the image.

I then change the metadata externally and PL8.5 detects that and warns that there is a Synchronisation error which I can ignore or fix with a 'Read from image", if I so choose.

Peter, I hope that helps.

Regards

Bryan

PS:- The keywords in the DOP