@anon78744791 I am not interested in the underlying engine of the product, unless it greatly affects my ability to make edits or the quality of those edits when applied to the image.
My comparison is with respect to the editing process that I need to execute and whether I find that especially useful to me or not and the answer is that I took to DXO OpticsPro with free copies of 8 and 9, dithered over the 10 trial version and finally purchased OpticsPro 11.
I like the editing methodology and the export options, it fits with what I want my Photo editor to be!
You may well be older than me, I am just passed my mid 70s and have been taking digital photos since 2003 but on Bridge or compact cameras until a move to Micro Four Thirds in late 2015 but still taking only JPGs.
I didn’t start taking both JPGs and RAWS until January 2018 and have tried many different “old” fashioned Photo editors over the years but didn’t “enjoy” any particularly until OpticsPro!
Gimp left me cold then and when I had a look recently it did nothing for me!?
The total images “scares” me, the RAWS (RW2+ORF) total 201,412 since January 2018, the JPGs are between 1,000,00 and 2,000,000 according to WizTree!! Please see EDIT below
I just realised what I really value about DxPL and that is the DOP, the ability to put down an image edit and pick it up again at some time (or never) in the future!
@Guenterm you beat me by one major release, my first encounter was version 8 as I stated above but no purchase until version 11.
If you see the figures above with respect to the number of images I take then single image processing is not what interests me in the slightest!
I have purchased Serif products since way back, but then they left us Windows users without anything for some time until the product became available on the Windows platform.
I think that the negative comments made about DxPL metadata handling are over stated and many of the comments could be applied to other products with even more justification that applying them to DxPL. But certain nuances of the product were misunderstood and if you understand them then you can produce hierarchical keywords that match Capture 1.
But there is actually a major problem with keyword renaming that I have never written up but that is for another day, maybe.
As for DxO engagement with its typically well informed userbase, it is an appalling joke.
They don’t listen, they don’t engage, except on their own terms, they shoot themselves in the foot from time to time as a consequence and, arguably, they deserve all they will get from their userbase.
Which is a pity because it is the product for me!
@asvensson If you have read the above before you get to this bit you might get the reason that I stick with DxPL. That doesn’t change my opinion of DxO nor my frustration that things that could (should) be done to improve the reliability of releases do not appear to be happening.
I have played with Lightroom and C1 briefly, neither “lit my fire”. I detest Adobe (and Apple) and any model that locks my editing work behind a subscription is a no no.
I feel that the Mac has something with M1 etc. and for the first time in their history I was tempted to consider buying a Mac mini instead of upgrading to a new Windows system but I have way to much invested in Windows (good or bad) to throw that away and playing with VM is a whole new learning curve, so I will stick with my three Windows machines.
The weather in the (South of the) UK has taken a turn for the worse, up at 5.00 yesterday to drive my wife to the airport for a holiday with her sister and a group of lady friends so I hope it stays nice in Portugal.
I need to start some tidying and decorating, managed to complete some fence painting yesterday before the weather broke!
Regards
Bryan
Edit:- My maths is not all it should be, or rather my reading of the WizTree output was incorrect because on the F: drive I hold all my images excluding some RAWs, that I stored separately for a period, and a library of reduced size JPGs and that library is included in the totals, so the RAW totals stay the same and the JPG totals are more like 500,000 sorry!!
- when I only edited on one OS, but only because I simply didn’t see some issues. You don’t notice that the DCP and LUT functionality isn’t portable until you have PL read the dop on another host on which the path of the DCP/LUT isn’t the same. You don’t notice all the other quirks you’re also going to run into if you decide to move from Windows to Mac or vice-versa with your next computer purchase. I’d still be mighty peeved at many of my images being rotated incorrectly as of PL5, and the lack of a migration path from the Legacy to Wide Gamut colour spaces with PL6, and the refusal of DxO to address the issues, but it’s the cross-platform compatibility issues that have caused me more daily pain. I admittedly try to avoid them by editing on one OS as much as possible/convenient, but that’s a compromise I haven’t had to make with other applications.
