Customize Screen palettes PL7 - Color - Vibrance/Saturation?

Long time DXO PL (and previously OP) user. Just upgraded from 5 to 7 (7.7.2 installed), Windows 10. In the Customize screen, Color, in all previous versions the top palette was “Color accentuation” and this had just the two Vibrance and Saturation sliders. Now that seems to have gone, and the vibrance and saturation sliders are down in the HSL palette. As these were the two controls I used most when making quick edits, I find it annoying to have to scroll down. Also I find I cannot move the various palettes around, so I have (from top down) working color space (which I don’t use and can’t be switched off), RAW WB, Color/BW rendering, LUT grading, Style-toning, before finally getting to HSL and then the two sliders I want are further down in that palette.

Is it possible to put just those original two back at the top? Or how do I move HSL up to the top to make life easier? I’ve read the online manuals but can find nothing that helps. Any help appreciated as always.

If you have some preferred corrections, just add them as favorites. Then, next time when you want to recall them, just filter by favorites (button with the star icon at the top-right of the right panel.
And voilà.

Welcome to one of my biggest bugbears in PL7 :face_with_symbols_over_mouth: Most users hate this change which has actually taken PL7 a backward step and DxO won’t listen!

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OK, but I would much prefer to use this control within the Color palette. How can I change the position of sub-palettes within the Color Palette? I’m sure I used to be able to drag them into position, but this doesn’t work.

I think they are added in the order that you drag them onto your custom palette. I have not done it for a long time!

I’m not sure what you mean. Here is my Colour palette, with the Colour Wheel tool at the top…

The “Colour and Saturation” tool sliders no longer exist on their own, but are to be found under the Colour Wheel when the white dot is selected.

Choose another coloured dot and the available sliders change to reflect their use for a colour range rather than globally.

This was changed from the earlier arrangement…

… because that had two Saturation sliders that could be applied at the same time to different degrees, which caused confusion as you could reduce saturation with one slider, only to accentuate it by the same amount with the other, thus nullifying any effect whilst believing whichever slider you preferred to look at first.

If the TSL tool is not present in the Colour palette, simply remove it from where it was using the hamburger menu and add it to the Colour palette, dragging it to the top, if you wish.

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Create your own palette with the sort order you like with DPL Elite:

(Screen taken from the DPL7 user manual)

Instead of dragging tools into the new palette, you can also add them by selecting them in the hamburger menu located in the top RH corner of the palette.

Custom palettes have a few drawbacks though:

  • They are not multilingual
  • They don’t update automatically, you’ll have to check their contents after an update
  • Displaying favourites and used tools ignore your sort order
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… and above all there were two different algorithms.
Note that the range has been doubled, even if the cursor always goes from -100 to +100 :wink:

The HSL tool is present in the colour palette, but near the bottom. I cannot move it - trying to drag it doesn’t work, and a “no entry” type icon (circle with diagonal line through it) is shown. I would be content if it could be at the top, but don’t know how to get it there.

Can you post a screenshot of PL as you see it?

Screenshot - HSL is at the bottom right

When using the TAB’s things are “hardwired”.


The only ‘solution’ is to create

Or deselect all tabs, arrange the palettes as you want (now possible) and save the workspace. But, as soon as you switch back to the colour tab, you will lose your custom layout.

Wolfgang - Thanks - by collapsing all the other sub-palettes within the colour palette, except RAW while balance, I’ve now got HSL nearer the top of the colour palette where it is much easier to access the vibrance and saturation sliders.

Also note that you can evaluate the impact of your Color & Saturation settings by holding your mouse down on the “white dot” … and Col & Sat settings will be temporarily returned to zero.

  • You can also do this with any of the other specific colour channels.

  • Unfortunately, what you cannot do (which was possible pre-PLv7) is to toggle any of the colour-specific channels without global Color & Saturation settings having an impact.

Edit: Above, where I’m referring to “Color & Saturation” settings - I actually mean to say “Vibrance & Saturation” settings … Apols for the confusion this probably caused.


PL 7

hold < Ctrl > and click/hold the mouse pointer (hand) to display the range of the referenced color

PL 6

hold < Ctrl > and click/hold the mouse pointer (hand) to adjust & display the range of the referenced color

→ the 2nd screenshot (added later) shows another regression from PL6 to PL7

Yes, understood, Wolfgang … But, that’s not the limitation I was referring to.

Pre-PLv7, it was possible to review HSL settings independently of Vibrance & Saturation settings (by de-activating the Color Accentuation tool) … That’s no longer possible.

One can separately toggle global (Vibrance & Saturation) and color-specific channel settings … BUT, it’s no longer possible to toggle color-specific channel settings at the same time as having Vibrance & Saturation disabled.

I probably confused you by wrongly referring to “Color & Saturation” settings - when I meant to say “Vibrance & Saturation” settings … I will edit/fix my mis-statement.

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