Considering Pure Raw...I have a question

If I like Pure Raw, is there any reason to keep Topaz Photo? I have been using Topaz Photo and like the denoise and sharpening, but…it seems like it’s not really optimized for a simple nature photographer. The restoration and recovery features are the center of it and I don’t do any of that. I don’t find any of the other photo features useful, and don’t care for how when I open in Topaz, I have to adjust the lighting (in TP) just to be able to see what I am doing and then reset the lighting before going back to LRC. The updates are often buggy, and while they are quite responsive, the steps they ask me to go through to evaluate issues (the lighting thing, autopilot not applying sharpening) are ponderous. I just need something simple that works. I do like how TP can make a slight focus issue non-visible, but that is a once-in-a-while thing.

So…thoughts? I know Pure Raw NR is highly regarded, but how about sharpening? Thanks everyone!

If you are actually asking, can PureRAW fix a slight focus miss the way Topaz can?, then, no, PR can’t do that.

In terms of lens corrections and sharpening, only you can decide which application, PR or Topaz, gives you the effect you prefer.

That’s fair. I may just keep TP and discontinue the subscription. I don’t need the updates and 99% of my stuff just needs “regular” sharpening. Thanks for your take.

Happy to offer it. The thing about photography and photo editing software is that it is rarely right or wrong. Hopefully others here will offer their opinion.

I have a license for PureRAW 6 and am a current subscriber to Topaz Photo.

I got my Topaz renewal email recently and said… hmm… do I still really need this:? Especially at this price? More on that below.

Pure Raw is now the first app I send all my photos for processing, after being imported into Lightroom. No one yet does noise reduction better than DxO.

I only use Topaz Photo for a minority of my images, after DxO, and generally they’re images of wildlife subjects, especially birds, that could use a little sharpening. In some cases, I slightly missed focus as with a bird in flight, and Topaz Photo saves it beyond what DxO can do.

The two apps actually work quite well together as long as you let PureRAW do all the noise reduction first and turn noise reduction off in TP, and as long as you drop the sharpening settings down from the defaults and confine it just to the subject(s) you can choose in TP.

TP is hit-or-miss when it comes to sharpening human faces. Sometimes it does a great job, and sometimes it misses with comical results, turning a subject into a near-gargoyle. There are comical videos of this on YouTube. But it’s improving steadily, even at human faces. Most importantly, the focus can only be a little off. If the face is blurry, there’s no way you’re going to get good results sharpening it to restore the person’s facial features with any approach now available.

But you’d only need both DxO PureRAW and Topaz Photo if enough of your images benefit from a little extra sharpening and like how it does it, to justify the price.

I have TP at a grandfathered-longtime-customer renewal price that is not available to new customers. I would not be a new customer of TP at its current price. I’m also very concerned because Adobe is buying out Topaz Labs. I know from experience that that generally does not go well for the bought-out apps. Topaz is saying, oh, don’t worry, Adobe’s promised us everything will be fine. Yeah. Well that’s what is always said in this situation, and then all too often, a few months after the merger, the bought-out firm employees saying that are unemployed, and the customer base is screwed.

I will add that AI models such as Nano Banana Pro are rapidly gaining in ability to do what both PureRAW and Topaz Photo do, and then some, sometimes giving a finished image in one pass. They’re cheaper on a per-image basis unless you process many thousands of images annually. The problem for me with switching entirely to a Nano-Banana type approach is they have a much slower and kludgier workflow, making them impractical on a time, not money, basis even for hobbyists. That may get fixed. We’ll see. NB-type models also have to be sharply reined in with a very detailed prompt on what you want it to do, and don’t try to use it on blurry faces, so it doesn’t get creative inventing new facial details.

Thank you very much for your detailed report!

Very helpful thank you! I have educator pricing for Topaz so it’s not egregious, but for the frequency with which I use it…not sure about continuing. I suppose if I an honest, I can do just fine with LRC alone. I do like Nik Sharpener though.

I use DxO PureRAW as a pre-processor to Capture One Pro as DxO PureRAW’s noise reduction and lens corrections are IMHO superior to those of Capture One. But I do find that the sharpening of a combination of DxO PureRAW and the default Capture One settings renders the image a bit too sharp for my liking.

So I set the “Lens Sharpness Optimisation” to “Soft” in DxO PureRAW and then import the resulting DNG file into Capture One Pro, where I set the “Sharpening Amount” to somewhere between 0% and 50% of the default value, as I deem appropriate. I usually find that 50% is about OK, but sometimes I find it necessary to go lower.

I still keep an old copy of Topaz Photo AI for those tasks which DxO PureRAW can’t do.

I still use Topaz Sharpening. I don’t use Topaz DeNoise anymore, DxO is far better, IME. I don’t pay Topaz any subscription.