When can we expect Automatic Dust Removal in DXO Photolab ?
Do we have to wait for PL 10 ?
New feature in DXO Pure RAW 6.0
Automatic Dust Removal
Automatic Dust Removal detects and removes dust spots based on a user-defined sensitivity threshold.
Detected spots are displayed for review, and users can deselect areas that were incorrectly identified. This
reduces manual retouching while maintaining full control, streamlining workflows for scanned images, or
photos affected by sensor dust.
Yes, as this is a new feature, it is very likely that we will have to wait PL v10.
Really? That soon? I hope so but I canāt see it happening that quickly, not based on DxOās track record.
Genuine question:
Are there historical instances of features appearing in PureRaw that did not become available in the next full-number release of PhotoLab? Iāve not been around long, but I thought it always absorbed the full set of PR features that had been priorly released.
Iām not a DxO historian, but yes, this must have happened a few times.
I remember the new batch renaming which arrived with PR4 and available in PL9, 18 months later.
There may be other examples.
PureRAW 6 has just been released. It has AI dust removal. I read that it will be incorporated into a PL9 update later this month.
Any link to a source?
Has anyone actually tested ADR in PureRAW already? Results?
Just tested myself.
You can see thereās (light) dust (actually oil) spots where I indicated them here:
PR correctly found them (and more I guess):
And erased them:
But when things get more complex than just a plain sky, it seemed not to be so helpfulā¦
Same camera and same day, so all the spots are in the same place on the sensor. Hereās one where one of the spots is smack in the middle of the bridge lines:
PR was unable to detect it, even at 100% sensitivity:
I think it would be more helpful if you could also manually point out the spots, the way Capture One allows.
After my test results, Iām definitely not going to be sad if it doesnāt appear in PL10.
What I read was from this article: DxO Wants PureRAW 6 to Be the First Step in Your Photo Editing Workflow | PetaPixel
But after re-reading it Iām not so sure. The article says that a PhotoLab update later this month āwill incorporate several of the new technologies introduced here, including DeepPrime XD3 support for all sensor types and high-fidelity DNG compression.ā It doesnāt specifically mention AI dust removal, so that might not be included after all.
Iāve used the Nik Collection since way before Google had it. But thatās my only experience with DxO and I did not upgrade Nik very often.
As a new owner of PL 9 I find this interaction between it and PR to be very odd. I didnāt see any benefit to owning PL and PR and just assumed that in PL I had everything in PR.
That does not appear to be the case now. Maybe it never was. But I have to say that adding new features to PR and not to PL seems a bit strange. Would anyone who owned that latest version of PL pay for PR as well to get the newer features? Is that what DxO is after? Or are they just holding those features, like AI dust removal, as a carrot for owners of the latest version of PR?
Iām not opposed to DxOās packaging of things like Nik and FilmPack and ViewPoint as it is nice to be able to buy just what I want. I donāt need or want FilmPack or ViewPoint, for instance.
Anyway. Just puzzled.
But I would really like the dust removal feature even with the limitations described above, but I donāt think Iāll upgrade to PL10 right after purchasing PL9 just for that feature.
I think generally it is a side effect of the cadence of release dates.
PhotoLab releases in September(ish) and PureRaw releases in March(ish).
They have to have something new for each application if people are going to buy the new version. And from what I can tell, usually the PureRaw features end up in the next release of PhotoLab as reasons for PhotoLab users to upgrade. I donāt think really anyone would own both appsāthat would be severely redundantābut one would/could likely upgrade their PL to (hopefully) get the new PR features when that occurs in the Fall.
I suppose a more honest (at least more honest-seeming) approach would be to release both of the apps at the same time, given that PL fully absorbs PR, most of the time, and thereās really no reason to have bothāunlike the other DxO apps.
Letās consider practical aspects of timing of new releases. If all apps came to market at the same moment, getting them all would be way too expensive for most and sales figures would go down. Releasing at different times makes upgrading look less expensive and have the bonus uf delivering the latest feature advances.
This sales approach generates revenue that spreads more evenly throughout the year and after all, DxO must pay their engineers a (probably) monthly salary.
Depending on how folks like to edit, a combo of PureRAW and the Collection can make sense, or a bundle of PL, FP and VP. We can get these bundles at times, at other times, itās Black Friday or Xmas discounts etc. And sometimes, is simply full price. Thereās something for everyone, provided one can wait for the occasion.
Will ADR come to PL? Most definitely yes. When will that be? Weāll see.
āI want it now and in PLā? Authentic need, it does not force reality though.
Which is why I carefully only talked about PL and PR being released at the same time, but not FP & VP.
As already has been alluded to by others, and as I already said, mostly nobody is going to by PL & PR together.
right, but if one can get the newest feature 6 months ahead of the ETA, some might be tempted. The thread here is a feature request after all.
DxOās sales tactics seem to work.
Weāre on the same page here.
I only said it would be the āmore honest approach,ā not the āmakes more business-sense approachā 
I canāt argue with marketing strategies if they are successful. Having said that, I assume Adobeās marketing strategies are successful too.
As mentioned it seems unlikely that anyone with PL9 is going to buy PR6. And in my case, Iām not going to upgrade to PL10 if the only new features are the same as the ones in PR6 that DxO is dangling as an upgrade carrot. So the sales strategy might not work on me.
For me the only way DxO makes sense vs Adobe is if you donāt get on the upgrade treadmill.
P.S.: No one is voting. I just did. Now there is one.
When you have PL you do not need PR. Most of not all PR features are rolling into PL, either as a free update or in the next release. Nothing to worry about. With regard to the PR6 features, DXO have stated that the coming point release of PL9, I guess that will be 9.6, will include XD3 denoise and many other features.
I think it is normal for them to not debug new software in two products at the same time, so they release in one and once issues are ironed out they include those features in the other products. But yet even from DXO, they do not expect PL users to use PR. Only thing PR has that PL does not really have is batch processing capabilities.
Personally I had bought PR4, used it with another RAW editor but eventually bought PL8. Now I am on PL9 so I keep my PL updated but abandoned PR entirely.
PureRAW is like a time-misaligned subset of PL, but thatās not fully the case.
PhotoLab is DxOās key app (imo) and they are trying to offer some of it to customers who can do with the reduced feature set and course controlsā¦with PureRAW. As a goodie, PR has been used as the spearpoint for introducing new features. And often enough, PR users will get into PL.
Bottom line: DxO is trying to sell their productsā¦and we can be free to choose which ones we (donāt) buy.
Itās great to finally see ADR in PureRAW 6, but Iām with the skeptics on the timeline for PhotoLab. Historically, DxO likes to let these features bake in PR for a bit before the full integration. I really hope we donāt have to wait until PL10, but given the complexity of the PhotoLab engine, a āpoint releaseā update might be asking for a lot. Has anyone found a reliable way to āpushā the PR-cleaned DNGs back into PL without losing too much flexibility in the meantime?
