Hi, It’s great trying to toy around with different color profiles but it’s a pain exporting to actually see the different effect.
The attached files show my problem: the colors are really different in the preview. For example, using the dxo build-in camera profile is nice, but the preview is washed out. If a profile looks nice in preview, sometimes it’s so oversaturated that it clips colors or paints over reflections.
Thanks for the directions but I don’t see any difference. Now I did export with Adobe RGB, sRGB and DxO Wide Gamut, resulting in the same looking image. One different to the PhotoLab preview (the export is oversaturated):
Maybe my GX80 doesn’t have some color profile in PhotoLab for the preview, even if it’s supported for the actual rendering? Maybe some other setting?
EDIT: I know the image will look different on different monitors, that’s why I screenshot how I see both on my specific monitor. I know this example is not too severe but red in particular is a big problem - oversaturating clothes to the point of clipping the texture so much that the creases and wrinkles are gone.
I see that you are using a viewer that manages colors (fastone) to see the result outside of photolab and be sure of the color rendering which is good.
activate the management in fastone in the settings.
as a first test I will try to export in sRGB by viewing the photo: if it remains oversaturated then I have no explanation and maybe contact support (bug?)
In the export dialog, check the box for “Preserve color details” - or, better, turn on Soft Proofing in PhotoLab and set it up for sRGB or Adobe RGB (or whatever you want the output color space to be for display) and in Export set ICC to “same as Soft Proofing” which will include enabling “Preserve color details.”
This should match what you see and what you export. If not, then I’m at a loss.
Thanks, I’ll play with those export parameters when I get back home later on. I’ll also try other jpeg viewers, it never occurred to me that was a factor as well. Right now FastStone has “Color Management” checkbox enabled to sense the color space but maybe it’s not playing nice… I’ll try to force everything to sRGB as the safest standard and we’ll see.
This is one export I like with a washed out preview (default dxo camera profile).
As I was playing with the Color Managements System in FastStone, I enabled the use of the monitor profile and both became washed out. I set up my monitor with the sRGB profile and both became good. DxO preview uses the monitor profile so it has to be properly set.
BTW, my Panasonic GX80 defaults to sRGB (Adobe RGB is the alternative), so maybe it has that info in the RAW file. I presume DxO reads that when set to export “as shot”. Just in case, I’ll be sure to set the export to sRGB for compatibility sake.
Also, it seems “Preserve color details” is a nice little fail-safe. This is the DxO Neutral Color profile that I mentioned oversaturates the reds on my GX80:
Both exported as sRGB. So if one gets a but careless with saturation, “Preserve color details” saved the detail in the jpeg. In normal exports with good colors there’s no difference it being enabled. So I’ll keep this one enabled as well.
