If you download IrfanView don’t forget to download the plugins too. They are neede to view raw files.
Also when you rename the images do that before you open them in PL. And when adding keywords etc. direct to the image do that also before you open them in PL.
George
The absence of a .dop file does not mean that the image is unchanged,
e.g. if an image has been moved or renamed in a different way than shown below.
…renaming files can also be done while PL is running
That’s a very basic functionality I can’t use.
George
Yes, but … you need to be very careful in doing so.
You must retain naming convention of any associated sidecar/.dop files
Be must sure to rename a source/RAW file and its associated sidecar/.dop file in quick succession (that is, not a bunch of source/RAW files followed by all their associated sidecar/.dop files) - because;
– if you leave a delay then PL is likely to decide that the newly named source/RAW file is one it has not encountered before - so, it will apply the default preset AND export the result to a corresponding sidecar/.dop file … and then your associated sidecar/.dop file renames will fail.
To be safe, do as George recommends;
to demonstrate …
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While running PL 7, I marked 4 raw files and asked to add “_v2” after the filename
what it did, including all PL recognized sidecar files
As shown, the sidecar file from ON1 (like other files that are “unknown” to PL !!) does not get the same renaming.
Good point.
File and sidecar(s) need to be renamed at the same time and then,
PL tracks things correctly on my Mac.
Considering the risk involved in renaming and while keeping PL open,
I rename files with PL’s rename functionality…if I don’t do it in Lr Classic.
I don’t believe so (absence of dop file means no changes to image). If I edit image X, exit PL and delete the dop file associated with image X, then restart PL, image X will still show its edits (due to the database containing the edits I assume). If I do the above AND delete the library before restarting PL, image X will appear without the edits. This is the reason I decided to delete the DB before starting PL.
The problem is that the Windows version of PL has an extremely poor History function. Also, many here have never used a proper History such as the one that LightRoom has. Therefore, the forum contains lots of comments listing one negative aspect - if you step back, then you lose edits forward of that point.
This is not a major issue and is greatly out done by all of the benefits - which get ignored.
My example of using the History (also ignored) is this - you make incremental adjustments to the HSL and want to compare them; History makes this very easy and I do this all the time. All you need to do is step around each of the entries till you find the one you like.
I also did this with LR but with one great advantage - I could close LR and come back to it days or weeks later and resume with all of my settings still visible in the History.
If I want to keep my settings but go off on a tangent, I just make a virtual copy.
I used LR for 20 years and I found that using the History has everything to gain and nothing to lose.
Except:
Hence, most people don’t bother with it and people coming to it from a good History function are seriously disappointed by it.
I have almost never used the history function as I mostly want to go back to something a few steps back in history and going back in time undoes everything else after the step I want to change!
I find it much easier to just go back to the tool I want to change and either make changes or simply reset it. You can also toggle a setting on and off to see the effect of that tool.
If this does not work for you then you can always make a virtual copy and then make changes and compare virtual copies.
Then of course you can always use the undo function.
I think a lot of people want to see what was done and the history is good for that but I find that just looking at the tools shows me quickly what I have done. Of course the palette that shows tools that have been adjusted is really useful.
There’s another option too. PL should make the edits definitive only after approval. I believe that was the old way in some converters. It gives me the choice of just editing without the need to use a VC. I can always go back to the state when I opened the image.
George
True, but … that’s ONLY because you’re intervening with a manual step (deleting the associated sidecar file).
Otherwise (assuming you have preferences set to save settings in sidecar files), the absence of an associated sidecar/.dop file IS a reliable indication that no corrections have been applied to the image.
By all means, delete the database (assuming you’re OK with not being able to search it with keywords) - but … doing so is not necessary if you’re not deleting sidecar files.
?? Is there a reason that you’re deleting sidecar/.dop files ?
… What are you aiming to achieve ?
You can do that right now with the History. The problem is, with the Windows version, if you have a previous session with that image, you lose that ability.
The only way around this is to Reset the image - BUT this is also recorded in the History. I.E. a mess.
I used LR for years and never used the history function for the reasons Joanna gave.
Your example of changing HSL only works if it’s the last thing you did. If you have later edits they are lost.
Affinity Photo has probably the best implementation of history where you can have “branches” in your history, but as AP is a pixel editor having a history function makes sense. For me with a parametric editor it doesn’t make sense but everyone is free to work how they like.
I use DXO PL7 Elite edition on windows platforms.
If I wanted to apply the edits from imagexxx to imageyyy I would use the “Copy Corrections Settings” from Imagexxx to imageyyy with Paste Corrections Settings" “All Corrections”. The imageyyy can be in the same file folder as imagexxx or in a different file folder. While this will work, it may not achieve the results you were looking for. To start the process, go to imagexxx and left click on it with your mouse. Then right click to fine Copy and Paste commands. You need to be in Customize and not Photo Library.
