Hi,
is this feature still on track for October/November release? I get more and more HEIF pictures that I can’t handle in PL.
Regards,
Kai
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October is around the corner, we will soon find out 
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Hi Marie, any update regarding the above? Was actually expecting this to be part of PL3. So were several people on Dpreview. JPEG is really outdated in my opinion, and TIFF is too large. 
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Hello @Robertjan88,
we had to put HEIC support on pause in order to finish tasks for PhotoLab 3.0 release but we will resume our work to have it available as soon as possible.
Regards,
Marie
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@Marie Awesome! Thanks!
Will this still be something for this calendar year, or at least before PL4?
Of course, I understand it will be hard to go into detail regarding your future roadmap, however an estimate would be highly appreciated.
Thanks!!!
The same things were said during PL2 launch about many features some of which are not even in PL3. I only believe it when I see this time Marie.
Just to illustrate with your own words:
See the pattern here? Please do not promise things if they are apparently far from done. This is one of my main annoyances with DxO… stuff is promised all the time but rarely delivered.
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Well, anyone who has worked in any industry on projects knows that the project team will invariably run into unexpected “stuff” along the way. If the project has finite resources and firm mileposts or deadlines to meet they will have to adjust priorities and choose what to do now and what to postpone to a later date. Those outside the action rarely have an appreciation for what is really going on behind the curtain!
I am impressed by PhotoLab (especially PL3) and the courtesy and patience of DxO’s staff in the midst of this storm. Well done… keep on keepin’ on!
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Correct. However, if one committed an important feature as a minor update for PL2, then one should deliver. At least before PL3. You create expectations.
Anyhow, being able to export RAW to HEIF is very important in my opinion. Should it not be released before PL4, then I might walk away from this piece of software. Especially, if competitors do offer it.
JPEG is too old fashioned (8bit etc) and TIFF is too large.
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Well, that new file format is « nice to have » especially to read as an input from lets say my iPhone.
To export and share, many out there still deal with jpeg so what’s the point. We have a huge bunch of drive space at disposal today I really do not think it is a necessity.
Until then, I will keep shooting jpeg on my iPhone and Earth will continu it’s revolution around the sun.
THAT do not mean I like to read promises that are not delivered. But as an industrial programmer myself, I can easily put myself in DxO’s shoes.
Hopefully customers will learn patience and DxO will learn from the (sometimes aggressive) remarks.
May you all have a great weekend.
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I would highly recommend to read up on HEIF. The file size is nearly half of JPEG, but the quality will be much higher (e.g. it’s not limited to 8bit color).
Shooting in HEIF will also be supported by future cameras (one of them being the upcoming Canon DX MK III).
Exporting RAW to HEIF (instead of JPEG) should even be a higher priority, for solutions like PL.
Every camera is able to shoot RAW, hence being able to export to HEIF, instead of JPEG, will result in much better images, with a lower file size.
Some websites or viewing solutions might not yet support this file type, however this is changing rapidly.
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I fear this is the way things are done here all too regularly.
I totally understand.
But we were able to live without it for all this years. It is not a few months that will change anything.
If you want DxO to move forward, send them love (and money) and wait until it produces fruits.
No, you pay when you get the fruit like in the super market – DxO is not a charity. With PL2 I wanted to help (due to the difficulties) but since nothing promised was delivered, and PL3 again doesn’t deliver many of what was promised for PL2, I am out this time until the fruits are shown and ready to be consumed. If they want more money/income they need to deliver better value versus competition.
Capture One 20 (the version coming soon) also doesn’t deliver anything substantial, so I am also skipping that this year (why pay 180 EURO for some incremental features that don’t have a major impact on your workflow/output quality). Serif / Affinity Photo is still giving solid free updates 3 years later (they are an example of how to run a business properly).
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My point is that love do not cost anything and brings more than anything material can bring.
For the money, just do not pay when you feel it is not worthy, I agree.
I am sorry I am a bit sick of all this negativity on the forum lately. I guess we all work better when we get cheered up instead of taken down.
I agree but I think people had hopes that many things would be delivered in PL3 and they weren’t. Not all is lost because this time DxO could opt to deliver some solid .x updates. But yes, back to the business model, if they do deliver solid .x updates what can they add to PL4 with their limited resources? And this is in my view the catch-22 they find themselves in.
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Any news when this feature might be available?
As most of the four new PL3 features (except for the local adjustment panel) are not a reason to update for me I’ve postponed the upgrade until at least HEIF is available.
Hi Marie, Do you, by any chance, have some feedback regarding the update that will allow us to export to HEIF?
It’s going to have to be used as it looks like canon is switching to it
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