DXO Softwares on LINUX ! (please .....)

[sloweddie (Ed)]

@30west

I get why people use Windows in corporate environments (as I did before retirement), but for any high graphic demand, those PC “boxes” are kitchen sinks full of random components.

It’s a bit more than that, Gary.

1. I spent most of my working life in corporate environments in Engineering where typically we had either big powerful PC workstations or high spec PC boxes for design engineering and solid modeling. All running Windows. There were rarely crashes of the OS or graphics systems but lots of crashes of ProEngineer/Creo solid modeling software due to its extreme complexity.

2. Windows has been massaged to the point where Apple’s legendary advantage in performance and graphics is gone gone gone so long as – like in Apple hardware – a good motherboard and high quality late model components are in the box.

3. There are millions of us out there and many corporate IT departments that just don’t like “the Apple Way” for one basic reason: difficulty in setting the system up to operate exactly the way we/they want it to without so many contortions and extra apps to deal with some of the roadblocks Apple is so fond of putting in the way in the name of “security.” In comparison, the Windows and Android environments are MUCH easier to deal with and more friendly and accommodating straight out of the box.

[sloweddie (Ed)]

@30west

non professional users who have populated numerous forums and blogs with their frustrations and compatibility issues. Any yes, in total numbers there most likely will always be more users of Windows than Mac or Linux, but of those three NORMAL platforms, I think Mac users have the best user experience.

Can we compare Apples to Apples? How much $$$ does the “normal” Apple box cost vs the “normal” Windows box? What about a similarly spec’d Dell or Acer, etc Windows box of a roughly equivalent cost as the Apple?

If you buy a Dell or Acer or …whatever, you’re not going to have compatibility problems. That’s a red herring. The people that have problems are the ones who build their own systems or modify an existing one but don’t fully understand the important specs and how to choose the correct components.

[30west (Gary (Fujifilm xt-5, Mac Studio M2 max))]

@sloweddie

How much $$$ does the “normal” Apple box cost vs the “normal” Windows box? What about a similarly spec’d Dell or Acer, etc Windows box of a roughly equivalent cost as the Apple?

Okay, enough! The Mac / Windows debate will continue long after most of us are gone. I hate the ludicrously high price of Apple in terms of memory and storage and (to repeat myself) would welcome Linux compatibility with DxO and all premium software. I might have realized that the people who post here value premium products, or they wouldn’t use DxO in the first place. The percentage of the total Windows user base (who pay for premium hardware) is unknown to me, but I suspect it is a minority. “Similarly spec’d Dell or Acer” maybe does exist, especially if equipped with ARM processors, but one needs to be very savvy to know the difference, since there is a bewildering array of hardware inside these “PCs” (which is abbreviation for PERSONAL computer, not dedicated graphics workstations). My “Linux toy” is a Dell Latitude 5400 which I bought refurbished on Amazon (cheaply). It has 32gb memory and 1 tb solid state storage…but the graphics is integrated Intel UHD Graphics 620. I’m not sure how that stacks against Apple Silicon graphics multiple cores or the “similar spec’d machines”, but since these were corporate gizmos, I would guess these are “normal Windows boxes” which I will continue to believe are the most common and which my original comments were directed at.

Sorry if I raised the ire of those who feel compelled to defend their platform of choice. We might as well argue over automobile brands or sports teams, since it changes nothing.

Please feel free to “pile on” with the “last word” because I’m done.

[andras.csore]

@30west

The percentage of the total Windows user base (who pay for premium hardware) is unknown to me, but I suspect it is a minority.

I wonder, what means “premium hardware”. Most of it (PC) just powerful and good enough (to do the job). I also think some similar regarding PL - the “just good enough PC” is just okay. Not need a premium one.

[sloweddie (Ed)]

@30west

Sorry if I raised the ire of those who feel compelled to defend their platform of choice. We might as well argue over automobile brands or sports teams, since it changes nothing.

In this instance you deserved to get your hand slapped!

To be fair and honest you can’t compare a cheap $750 Windows box of uncertain heritage to a $2500 Apple box and then proclaim a sweeping generalization that since this Apple offering is more powerful and less trouble-prone than this cheap Windows box, Apple computers are superior to PCs. That era is long past.

[sloweddie (Ed)]

@30west

It has 32gb memory and 1 tb solid state storage…but the graphics is integrated Intel UHD Graphics 620. I’m not sure how that stacks against Apple Silicon graphics multiple cores or the “similar spec’d machines”, but since these were corporate gizmos, I would guess these are “normal Windows boxes” which I will continue to believe are the most common and which my original comments were directed at.

Having worked in corporate environments for so many years makes this an easy call: What you have is a “corporate” computer bought by an IT dept looking to save some bucks on computers that are meant for everyday business use like composing letters and working with spreadsheets. They don’t have the power and speed for serious technical and graphics use. This genre of computer would be at the lower end of the spectrum for consumers.

The specs are OK but can’t effectively run DxO or Lightroom since a separate graphics card is needed for that plus a better cpu and faster memory. SSD are commodity items nowadays so you’ll see them everywhere.

I don’t think many corporations would use expensive Apples just to run spreadsheets and compose memos. Like I said, Apples to Apples comparisons!

[be51 (Escaich)]

@30west

Exactly and in every blog I see it is the same. I get why people use Windows in corporate environments (as I did before retirement), but for any high graphic demand, those PC “boxes” are kitchen sinks full of random components.

It seems many of us are retired (I am) : Are you really in such a rush to develop your photos?
I get my photos ready and start the processing whilst I go for a meal or even whilst I’m doing something else on my computer.

[Evildad]

@30west

but for any high graphic demand, those PC “boxes” are kitchen sinks full of random components.

Sorry, I spec’d every component of my PC and built it myself - twice. If you’re thinking photo and video studios use Dells or Lenovos for their editing, you’re living in a very insulated Mac-world. It’s 2026, those arguments have been gone a long time.

[JoPoV]

@30west

You have seemingly based yours on very professional grade graphic workstations which were never a part of my reference to “Windows Boxes” … … which worldwide are non upgradeable to Windows 11

Sorry, again, what are you talking about ?

So you’re talking about about 10 years old machines (CPUs newer than that should be eligible I think) ? And you’re talking about today high graphic demand softwares ?

So, yes. Since about 10 years a lot have evolve for high graphic demand, graphics cards have continually evolved and have feature specialized circuits for different types of “computations,” such as CUDA cores, Tensor cores, and RT cores, amount of ram has increase and speed of all computer components have increase, so graphics software developers are fortunately taking full advantage of all of this.

Computers from 10 years ago were powerful for the high graphic demand software of 10 years ago.

And today’s computers are powerful for today’s software.

Things are changing fast !

Well, fast ? Ten years is still a long time. We don’t realize it anymore as we get older.

My first PC was powerfull enough for high graphic demand (in 3d !), it was a dual Pentium pro cpu with lot lot of ram for its time : 64 Mo ! (no typo) ram for running OS and 3d software (modeling, animation, lighting, shading, high resolution rendering) !!! and virtual memory was not an option for high graphic demand (way too slow) !!! And no graphic card at this time !!!

Things evolve …

[JoPoV]

As we get older we don’t realise how time pass and brain glitches sometime, so I corrected what I wrote above : it was not a dual xeon (there was no xeon), but a dual pentium pro.

[ramenos (Arnaud)]

Hi,

Enforcing this post as I am working on Linux and I wish DxO would be available on that OS. Otherwise, I might have to switch back to Lighroom which is easier to emulate on Linux.

Yes, it’s some development, but you have power users of your solutions that are on Linux.

[HGF (Sony Alpha 77II, WIN11, PL9, FP8, VP5)]

Try to emulate DxO PL in Linux and please share your experiences with the community.

[30west (Gary (Fujifilm xt-5, Mac Studio M2 max))]

I think you are making my original point for me and confirming what I said about the Dell (that I referenced) being a “corporate gizmo”, not intended for graphics work. And…obviously corporations do not use Apple to run spreadsheets, which I never advocated. All I ever intended to say (and had so many tender feelings injured) is that there is almost no standard “Windows Box” and to the less aware in the general population, many (most?) are not designed for photo editing. YES! I always knew one could buy or build a high end PC with exotic hardware very capable of graphics, but MOST of the “Windows Boxes” out there are not that! And the vast majority of people reporting problems on these forums are using PCs with little knowledge of the components and design capabilities.

[ramenos (Arnaud)]

I did, but it was not easy and still not perfect. It did not work with Wine. I did with Winboat ( GitHub - winboat-org/winboat: Run Windows apps on 🐧 Linux with ✨ seamless integration · GitHub ) and it works, but then cleaning noise on high ISO pictures does not work… Everything else is ok, despite the fact it’s emulated… I am really looking for a native version.

FYI, Lightroom works much better, but as I own a Fuji, I wish I could keep DxO and enjoy it 100%.

[HGF (Sony Alpha 77II, WIN11, PL9, FP8, VP5)]

Thank you very much for sharing this. Because noise reduction is one of the most important features in PL it makes no sense to move to Linux without having this running. I guess we need to wait.

[calvingrinder (M5 Pro ◦ Nikon ◦ USA)]

I spotted this on Facebook. I am not a Linux user. I want my editing kit to work 24/7 so I use a Mac. I have no desire to hear my Captain cry “we’ve run afloat” as I trod up on the shores of what I’m sharing here.

I have not tried this; don’t blame me if your graphics card starts belching smoke.

“ On the French Photolab group DxO PhotoLab Utilisateurs FR, the user Eric Meygret posted a script to install PL 9 under Wine and Ubuntu. See linked. It is working pretty well, including the GPU access (Nvidia tested) and all the AI related functions. From my experience:⁣

I have to set the BIOS of my laptop to deactivate my discreet video configuration or PL will only see my Intel GPU.⁣

There is still an error message at start-up about the ICC profile. It is probably possible to fix it by compiling a version of Wine with liblcms (littleCMS) . On my laptop when enabling OpenCL PhotoLab switch to the Intel GPU disabling my Nividia GPU.

I changed three things in the script.⁣

Adding⁣

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𝘧𝘰𝘳 𝘥𝘭𝘭 𝘪𝘯 𝘤𝘰𝘯𝘤𝘳𝘵140 𝘮𝘴𝘷𝘤𝘱140 𝘮𝘴𝘷𝘤𝘱140_1 𝘮𝘴𝘷𝘤𝘱140_2 𝘷𝘤𝘢𝘮𝘱140 𝘷𝘤𝘤𝘰𝘳𝘭𝘪𝘣140 𝘷𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘱140 𝘷𝘤𝘳𝘶𝘯𝘵𝘪𝘮𝘦140 𝘷𝘤𝘳𝘶𝘯𝘵𝘪𝘮𝘦140_1; 𝘥𝘰⁣

𝘸𝘳𝘦𝘨 ‘𝘏𝘒𝘊𝘜\𝘚𝘰𝘧𝘵𝘸𝘢𝘳𝘦\𝘞𝘪𝘯𝘦\𝘋𝘭𝘭𝘖𝘷𝘦𝘳𝘳𝘪𝘥𝘦𝘴’ /𝘷 “$𝘥𝘭𝘭” /𝘵 𝘙𝘌𝘎_𝘚𝘡 /𝘥 𝘯𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘷𝘦,𝘣𝘶𝘪𝘭𝘵𝘪𝘯⁣

𝘥𝘰𝘯𝘦⁣

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in local.dll just before⁣

[[ -f “$PREFIX/drive_c/windows/system32/msvcp140.dll” ]] || die "Visual C++ 2022 non installé"⁣

This to inform Wine to use the installed msvcp140.dll and not its own, that do not implement some necessary calls.⁣

Adding⁣

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𝘭𝘯 -𝘴𝘧𝘯 “$𝘏𝘖𝘔𝘌” "$𝘗𝘙𝘌𝘍𝘐𝘟/𝘥𝘰𝘴𝘥𝘦𝘷𝘪𝘤𝘦𝘴/𝘻:"⁣⁣

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in the step 𝘴𝘵𝘦𝘱_𝘱𝘳𝘦𝘧𝘪𝘹() just before 𝘸𝘸𝘢𝘪𝘵.⁣⁣

This fix the issue of PL forgetting the Last edit path when restarting.⁣

And ⁣⁣

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𝘰𝘶𝘵 = 𝘦𝘯𝘴𝘶𝘳𝘦(𝘰𝘶𝘵, “𝘋𝘹𝘖.𝘗𝘩𝘰𝘵𝘰𝘓𝘢𝘣.S̶e̶t̶t̶i̶n̶g̶s̶.𝘗𝘳𝘰𝘱𝘦𝘳𝘵𝘪𝘦𝘴.𝘚𝘦𝘵𝘵𝘪𝘯𝘨𝘴”, “𝘗𝘳𝘦𝘧𝘴𝘓𝘢𝘯𝘨𝘶𝘢𝘨𝘦”, 𝘭𝘢𝘯𝘨, 𝘰𝘷𝘦𝘳𝘳𝘪𝘥𝘦=𝘍𝘢𝘭𝘴𝘦)"⁣⁣

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par⁣⁣

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𝘰𝘶𝘵 = 𝘦𝘯𝘴𝘶𝘳𝘦(𝘰𝘶𝘵, “𝘋𝘹𝘖.𝘗𝘩𝘰𝘵𝘰𝘓𝘢𝘣.𝘗𝘳𝘰𝘱𝘦𝘳𝘵𝘪𝘦𝘴.𝘚𝘦𝘵𝘵𝘪𝘯𝘨𝘴”, “𝘗𝘳𝘦𝘧𝘴𝘓𝘢𝘯𝘨𝘶𝘢𝘨𝘦”, 𝘭𝘢𝘯𝘨, 𝘰𝘷𝘦𝘳𝘳𝘪𝘥𝘦=𝘍𝘢𝘭𝘴𝘦)"⁣⁣

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This to fix language setting.

On my system it takes about 21 seconds to start and display a photo. For some reason it twice faster than on my Windows 11, same machine. Exporting with DeepPrime is normal with ARW but very slow with ORF.

At your own risk. You need a valid licence but no need of a full Windows dedicated VM. Note that the script was written for a French installation, you may have to change “Téléchargement” to “Downloads” in the script.

And of course, Photolab is not supposed to work under Linux so, DON’T COMPLAIN TO DxO, or to Eric or to me, if something is not working properly.

Thanks to Eric Meygret”