That aged well didn’t it?
Why did you split your reply to me in two? Your second reply crossed mine, which was accurate at the time I posted.
Always check how deep the water is before you jump
Something Apple have had right for a very, very long time. If you have accessibility needs and you don’t use Apple products… good luck.
If you do use Apple products, just turn it on straight out of the box and you’re catered for.
Ahh, right. So where is the PC you were using 10 years ago? What about 20 years ago?
Oh, you still have an ancient computer? You upgraded it? Where are the parts you took out? Or are you still running a Broadcom chip in your PC?
I have a 10 year old Mac doing service as a print server. Oh, and even that old beast has recycled materials in it. My brand new Mac has even more recycled materials and while I don’t think I can take advantage here in New Zealand, Apple will take ANY of their products back (even pay you for it in some cases) and recycle as much of it as is possible. They even built a freaking robot to tear down iPhones more efficiently.
Where are your PC parts being recycled?
No, they don’t if people insist on finding something, or someone, to hate.
You mistake hate for a dose of reality. You literally buy expensive products from a company that open admitted that they shafted their own customers, on purpose. And you and others take it, and keep buying. And if you think they are not still doing it, they are. In 5 years time, they will get caught again, they will pay a fine (which means the price of your product will go up to pay for it, again) but you’ll keep buying it.
It’s not hate that will kill the world it is stupidity. Parents keep saying that their kids aren’t getting the education they deserve. It’s not the teachers that are the problem, it’s the parents. They all want to be mates with their kids. They never want to be the bad guy. Never want the responsibility to tell their kids what is right and what is wrong. And God forbid should they lead by example. Imagine trying to explain to your kid why you buy products from a company that you know shafted you, and probably still does but you keep buying.
The kids don’t stand a chance - just look at the parents.
I have never bought a PC that I have not upgraded.
How many Mac users ever upgrade their computer?
Well, I bought my latest MacBook Pro with a 1TB SSD and immediately upgraded it by buying a couple of extra 2TB external USB-C SSDs. Can’t see any performance degradation in disk access.
Oh, and then there’s the second display, which is the beautiful Apple 27" Studio Display with Thunderbolt hub.
Yes, this all costs but, I don’t drink, I don’t smoke, I don’t go out that much, so my enjoyment in life is doing high quality photography with my Nikon D850 and producing stunning prints, either on my Canon Pro-1000 A2 printer or from Picto Labs in Paris, for larger prints.
I had to work with Windows when creating software for some clients, but I installed it in a Parallels VM so that, apart from Visual Studio, I could “turn Windows off” and return to the sanity of macOS at any time.
I think this was covered a while ago. You claimed that the speed of the externals was the same as internal M.2 NVMe drives. However, the facts speak for themselves. External SSDs are over twice as slow, most are 3 or 4 times as slow.
So you bought a couple of external SSDs - well you had to really because if you had wanted to purchase internal ones for a MAC they would have cost you several times what they would cost to do the same thing on a PC.
You see the world sees it as a flaw and a Mac user sees it as a USP.
“I could “turn Windows off” and return to the sanity of macOS at any time.” - The sanity of using a product from a company that you know rips you off. I am so glad I don’t have your sanity.
I didn’t claim that. What I said is that they seem to react fast enough for my needs and I can’t tell whether they are internal or external.
So am I ![]()
Have a read of that again and tell me this is objective commentary and not highly opinionated posturing.
I did ask… where are the bits you took out?
Well this has well and truly gone off the rails and, yes, I’m part of the reason why. But it’s one of those threads I am about to unfollow/mute. I’m perfectly happy to have objective discussions and disagreements, but the righteous claptrap is the end of it for me.
So a PC user is the bad guy because he goes through life upgrading? Of course.
Whereas Apple make upgrading unaffordable and just to make sure, they “update” your software to slow it down.
Pro-Apple websites love to advertise the durability of “quality components”…….
And yet their average lifespan is shockingly short! Strange, no? The batteries fail because there is software built into the laptop batteries that makes them fail between 4-5 years.
It’s just gimmicks and advertising. The Emperor’s New Clothes all over again.
Oh bits I took out. Well you ebay them of course………………………………. obvious, no?
I can only describe the performance on my 5 year old baseline Mac mini M1.
My external nvme SSD’s deliver just shy of 2800MB/s in read and write. That’s what my internal SSD does too.
Yes the externals are faster than that, but the thunderbolt 4 is the limiting factor.
They have not yet hindered me any of my workflows.
That’s really the point. External is slower than internal. Not sure you posted to confirm what I said but glad you did ![]()

