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DxO OpticsPro (Windows) / Re: What does ClearView really do?
« Last post by obetz on May 24, 2017, 11:48:09 am »
Hi Bencsi,

thanks for the information. Now I understand the bad results I got rather often.

You mention that ClearView "needs subsequent readjustments to achieve the reasonable difference" but since I can't influence the toning separate from the contrast enhancement, it's impossible to reduce the effect of haze without getting ugly and unnatural looking streets.

Rather disappointing...

<nitpicking> After all, I wouldn't claim that ClearView removes haze. A serious haze removal isn't just local contrast but subtracting the haze generated light based on a depth map or manual gradient. </nitpicking>

Oliver
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DxO OpticsPro (Windows) / Re: What does ClearView really do?
« Last post by Bencsi on May 23, 2017, 09:44:29 pm »
Yes, the ClearView intended to strength the gray tone in advance the color content.
Anyhow, this is also a tool, what you can use to match your taste, it need subsequent readjustments to achieve the reasonable difference.

Endre
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DxO OpticsPro (Windows) / Re: What does ClearView really do?
« Last post by obetz on May 23, 2017, 08:46:14 pm »
Hi Bencsi,

do I understand correctly that you confirm the selective gray toning?

IOW gray areas are made darker than other colors?

Oliver
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DxO OpticsPro (Windows) / Re: What does ClearView really do?
« Last post by Bencsi on May 23, 2017, 03:38:57 pm »
You are right Oliver. ClearView is typically a contrast enhancer tool. Decrease the burn in whites and increase the black part, converting the dark gray part to. It is useful to make more contrast to the foggy images part particularly.
The default 50 value usually too strong, but you can adjust easily.

Endre
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DxO OpticsPro (Windows) / What does ClearView really do?
« Last post by obetz on May 23, 2017, 02:57:41 pm »
Hello All,

how works ClearView technically?

The manual claims "ClearView tool automatically eliminates atmospheric haze".

I expect a dehaze tool to determine the dust color, build a depth map and remove it.

But to me, ClearView looks more like local contrast enhancement in conjunction with a "make gray elements darker" toning style.

Can anybody confirm or refute my assumption?

I found that ClearView reduces the luminance of gray streets (concrete) or roofs more than other elements. Dark contrast enhanced streets look bad in aerial images...

Oliver
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Found the problem with DxO: It was a software conflict with Rivatuner Statistics Server 6.6.0. Disabling it made DxO immediately work in both versions. Fixed the problem permanently by upgrading Riva to version 7.0.0 beta.

The Photoshop Elements 7 problem may well have been caused somehow by creators update. The solution was easy though: Had to set both the main exe file and the editor exe file to run in Windows 7 compatiblity mode - now it works fine. The program worked before the update without any need for compatibility mode.
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Did you try reinstalling OpticsPro after the upgrade to Win10 Creators Update ?
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So I have been perfectly happy with my Optics Pro 9 ever since I bought it, and the program has also worked without any issues from day 1 with Windows 10. Now I just got the Creators update installed and all of a sudden the program is not even able to launch. I by the way have gotten the same issue with Photoshop Elements 7 (not a topic for this thread though).

DxO official support tells straightforward there is no official Win 10 support for this version of Optics Pro. So I want to ask around here in the forum, if someone has found a workaround?

Should mention I have tried several clean re-installs as well as tagging the exe file for running in different compatiblity modes (Windows 7 + 8 ). No sucess.

EDIT: I Just tried with the DxO Optics Pro 11 Trial and this results in the same issue! It seems to nr a more general problem with my Windows installation after the Creators Update.
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DxO OpticsPro (Mac) / Re: D810A vs. D810 - NEF files
« Last post by SeabirdNZ on May 20, 2017, 12:02:03 am »
No idea/feedback anyone ?  :-\
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DxO OpticsPro (Mac) / Re: Unusually long wait times for correction preview
« Last post by crisscross on May 19, 2017, 12:37:22 pm »
I agree. This may be because of preset put into preferences. In practice I only need 100% for pics of birds really too far away and its quicker to set a crop first
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